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  • ID: I0604
  • Name: Charles Edwin PAMMENT , Jr
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: BET JUL AND SEP 1848 in Denston, Suffolk, England 1
  • Death: 9 FEB 1904 in Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England 2 of Possibly a railway accident
  • Occupation: BET 1872 AND 1876 Engine cleaner/Fireman on Great Eastern Railway 3
  • Event: Occupation (2) BET 1887 AND 1891 Engine driver/Railway foreman 4
  • Event: Occupation (3) 1871 Engine fitter/Cherry Hinton, Cambs. 5
  • Note:
    Birth registered 1848 3rd quarter (Jul/Aug/Sep), Risbridge district.
    Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

    Pamment Charles Edwin Risbridge 12 415
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    1861 CENSUS:

    Name Est Birth Year Birthplace RelationshipOccupation

    Charles E Pamment 1826 London, MiddlesexHead/WidrShop Keeper
    Charles E Pamment 1849 Denston, SuffolkSon
    Stephen Carter 1842 Denston, SuffolkSonWatchmaker
    Authur P Pamment 1851 Denston, SuffolkSon
    Anna E Pamment 1857 Denston, SuffolkDaughter
    Sarah A Pymar 1841 Wickhambrook, SuffolkNieceHousekeeper

    Civil parish: Denston
    County/Island: Suffolk
    Country: England

    Street address: Wickham St

    Source information: RG9/1125
    Registration district: Risbridge
    Sub-registration district: Wickhambrook
    ED, institution, or vessel: 11
    Folio: 130
    Page: 13
    Household schedule number: 68
    GSU Number: 542758

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    - 1871 census for Cherry Hinton, Cambs. has Charles E. Pamment, age 23, engine fitter, born Denston, Suffolk living with parents on High Street.

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    - 1881 census
    Dwelling:23 Northgate Rd
    Census Place:Bury St Edmunds St James, Suffolk, England
    Source:FHL Film 1341446 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1844 Folio 35 Page 26
    MarrAgeSexBirthplace
    Charles PAMMENTM32 MDenston, Suffolk, England
    Rel:Head
    Occ:Railway Fireman
    Jane PAMMENTM29 FCherry Hinton, Cambridge, England
    Rel:Wife
    Occ:Railway Firemans Wife
    George PAMMENT 8 MBury St E, Suffolk, England
    Rel:Son
    Occ:Scholar
    Florence PAMMENT 7 FBury St E, Suffolk, England
    Rel:Daur
    Occ:Scholar
    Herbert PAMMENT 4 MBury St E, Suffolk, England
    Rel:Son
    Occ:Scholar
    Fred PAMMENT 3 MBury St E, Suffolk, England
    Rel:Son
    Occ:Scholar
    Harry PAMMENT 2 MBury St E, Suffolk, England
    Rel:Son
    Walter PAMMENT 1 MBury St E, Suffolk, England
    Rel:Son
    Rosa PAMMENT 7 wFBury St E, Suffolk, England


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    1891 census for Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk has Charles Edwin Pamment, Jr. living at #9 Outnorthgate St., age 42, occupation Engine Driver. Wife Jane (40), father Charles Edwin Pamment Sr. age 63, "border" and occupation is retired railway worker. Also the following children:
    George (18) draper, porter;
    Florence Kate (16);
    Herbert Arthur (14) butcher;
    Frederick Wm. (13);
    Harry Charles (12) scholar;
    Walter Ernest (11) scholar;
    John William (8) scholar;
    Emma Jane (4) and
    Sidney Frank (1).
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    1901 Census for Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk Address: 91 Springfield Rd.

    Name Age in 1901 Birthplace RelationshipOccupation


    Charles E Pamment 52 Denston, Suffolk, England HeadRailway Engine Driver
    Jane Pamment 49 Cherry Hinton, CambridgeshireWife
    Florence Pamment 26 Cambridge, CambridgeshireDaughter
    Arthur Pamment 23 Bury St Edmunds, SuffolkSonInsurance Agent
    Emma Pamment 14 Bury St Edmunds, SuffolkDaughterDressmakers Apprentice
    Sidney Pamment 11 Bury St Edmunds, SuffolkSon Scholar


    - 1901 census. PRO Reference Number RG13 Piece 1754 Folio 102 Page 39 Schedule Number 234 Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk


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    Writing in an e-mail on 5/20/2000, Sue Ayre stated: "Rumor has it that Charles Edwin senior left all his estate to Charles Edwin junior and as a result a rift developed between Charles and his brother Arthur, who until then had been very close. My grandmother and her brothers and sisters were told to have nothing to do with their cousins, so although they grew up in Bury St. Edmunds the gulf between them meant that contact was lost over the years."

    According to information received by Jon Garvey (UK) from the Society of Genealogists in London - Charles Edwin Pamment b 28/4/1848 Bury St Edmunds, train driver on GER. Killed on railway 9/2/1904.





    Father: Charles Edwin PAMMENT , Sr b: ABT 1829 in London, Middlesex, England
    Mother: Sarah Pattle CARTER b: ABT 1816 in England

    Marriage 1 Jane LINSEY b: ABT 1851 in Cherry Hinton, Cambs. England
    • Married: 19 SEP 1872 in St. John's, Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England
    • Note:
      Banns were also published in Cherry Hinton, Cambs. parish register....the home parish for wife Jane Linsey. 25 Aug 1872 Pamment, Charles Edwin bac of St. John's Bury St. Edmunds and Jane Linsey sp otp." (bac = bachelor; sp = spinster; and "otp" = of this parish.)

      Marriage from St. John's parish register, Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England:
      19 SEP 1872
      Charles Edwin Pamment 24 bac engine cleaner, 27 Tayfen Rd. son of Charles Edwin Pamment engine cleaner - Jane Linsey 21 sp of Cherry Hinton, Cambs. dau of John Linsey gardener.

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      Registration information:

      Name: Linsey, Jane & Pamment, Charles Edwin
      Record Type: Marriages
      Quarter: September
      Year: 1872
      District: Bury St Edmunds
      County: Suffolk
      Volume: 4a
      Page: 815
    Children
    1. Has No Children George Edwin PAMMENT b: 22 JAN 1873 in Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England
    2. Has Children Florence Kate PAMMENT b: 11 JUN 1874 in Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England
    3. Has No Children Rosa Jane PAMMENT b: 20 SEP 1875 in Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England
    4. Has No Children Herbert Arthur PAMMENT b: 15 OCT 1876 in Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England
    5. Has Children Frederick William PAMMENT b: 12 FEB 1878 in Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England
    6. Has Children Harry Charles PAMMENT b: 1 APR 1879 in Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England
    7. Has No Children Walter Ernest PAMMENT b: 4 MAR 1880 in Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England
    8. Has No Children Rosa Jane PAMMENT b: 11 FEB 1881 in Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England
    9. Has No Children John William PAMMENT b: 16 SEP 1882 in Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England
    10. Has No Children Bertie Thomas PAMMENT b: 29 APR 1885 in Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England
    11. Has Children Emma Jane PAMMENT b: 18 APR 1886 in Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England
    12. Has No Children Bertie Frank PAMMENT b: 1 AUG 1887 in Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England
    13. Has No Children Sidney Frank PAMMENT b: BET JAN AND MAR 1890 in Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England
    14. Has No Children Lily May PAMMENT b: 27 NOV 1890 in Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: 1871 census for Cherry Hinton, Cambs. and birth registration.
      Repository:
      Media: Book
      Note: 1871 census for Cherry Hinton, Cambs. and birth registration.
    2. Title: Email from Jon Garvey dtd 8/31/2001 - Society of Genealogists info
    3. Parish Register for St. John's, Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England.
    4. Parish Register for St. John's, Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England. Baptismal entries for children those years listed trade. Also 1891 census for Bury St. Edmunds.
    5. 1871 census for Cherry Hinton, Cambs.
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