Oliver Stowell Payton Hawley, ETC

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My great-grandfather John William Oliver and his ancestors (Oliver, Dudley, Venable) and descendants. John William Oliver was born in 1853 in Hamilton County, Florida and died in Georgia in 1932. His wife was Inez Stowell who was a descendant of Joseph Hawley. Edgar Ray Oliver, son of John William Oliver and Inez Stowell, married Ella Frances Payton.

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  • Name: William F OLIVER
  • Given Name: William F
  • Surname: Oliver
  • Sex: M
  • Note:
    The ancestors of William J. Oliver are unknown at this time. This Oliver line has no YDNA match in the Oliver YDNA project.

    YDNA

    Ideally, YDNA would tell us which line of Oliver that William F. Oliver belonged to. YDNA is passed down from father to son to son to son, etc., unchanged except for regular mutations that occur about every 250 years or so . I persuaded a descendant of John William Oliver to do the test. There are certain "markers" that define a particular family descent. These markers are numbered. The amount of alleles on that marker that two persons share determines the relationship between the two people. For instance at the marker DSY393 our YNDA donor has 13 alleles. At DSY 390 our YDNA donor has 23 alleles. Our matches should ideally have these same number of alleles for these markers with an acceptable number of mutations.

    These are the ancestors of Oliver individuals and families who we do not match to the date of this book:

    1. William Oliver b. 1693 Maryland
    2. Alexander Oliver b. 1673 Bertie Co.
    3. Lancelot Oliver 1704 Ireland/Wade Hampton Tolliver 1814 Wilkes Co NC
    4. William Oliver 1630 CT/Samuel Oliver 1790 NJ
    5. John Oliver 1676 England/Benjamin Oliver 1809 Warren Co, Ga/Elijah Turner Oliver 1803 KY
    6. Samuel Oliver 1794 SC/Samuel Oliver 1810 SC/Samuel Oliver 1810 KY
    7. Samuel Oliver 1775 Va/Alexander Oliver 1805 Va/Wesley Oliver 1809 TN
    8. Joseph Oliver 1725 to Va/Marshall Oliver 1780 Va/
    9. George Oliver 1726 Va/David Oliver 1819/Wm. Oliver 1794 NC
    10. Wm. Oliver 1773 NC-GA/Charles A. L.B. Oliver 1793 SC-Ga-Fl/John A. Oliver 1817 GA
    11. Jonathan Oliver 1769 England/Washington Warren Oliver 1824/1892
    12. Richard Oliver 1752-1847 KY
    13. James Newton Oliver 1815 TN
    14. Richard Oliver 1778 Wales
    15. William Jackson Pennington 1821 Ga
    16. Henry Jackson 1891 Va
    17. Thomas Oliver 1819 VT
    18. James Oliver 1801-1870
    19. John Oliver 1750 Delaware
    20. Ferdinand Oliver 1819 OH
    21. Lewis Oliver 1810 SC
    22. Lemuel Oliver 1820 IN
    23. John C. Bryant (Oliver?) 1825
    24. Joseph Oliver 1810 England
    25. Thomas Oliver 1776 Va
    26. Frances D. Oliver 1821 Ga
    27. William Franklin Oliver 1856 NC
    28. Richard Oliver d. 1771 Va -m- Julia Rives
    29. Jim Clark Oliver
    30. Edgar James Oliver 1821 NY
    31. James Oliver d. 1785 KY
    32. Joseph Oliver 1779-1837
    33. Samuel Oliver 1725 Abbeville, SC, Samuel Oliver Gwinnett Co, Ga

    HAPLOTYPE

    Another determiner of relationships is the YDNA haplotype. The haplotype must match between two individuals for them to be related by a common ancestor. This is an indicator of where the haplotype originated. Our Oliver haplotype is I1 and studies have determined that I1 is of Scandanavian origins between 6,000-8,000 years ago. The Vikings really got around and took their genes to France, the British Isles, Germany and other European locations, and even the North American Continent for a short while. Anywhere along the sea coast was fair game for Viking raids and settlements. Russia was even settled by Vikings along the rivers. England even had a Viking King, Kanut. So, this pretty much limits our Oliver ancestors to Scandanavia or places where the Vikings settled. The Scandanavian migrations to American came much later than 1800 so we can eliminate a direct Scandanavian origin.

    CHATHAM COUNTY, GEORGIA RECORDS

    William F. Oliver moved to Chatham Co, Ga sometime between 1790 when he was born in NC and 1814 when he married Mary Venable. Did he move with his parents, another relative or alone? Were there already relatives of William F. Oliver in Chatham before he moved there?

    Capt. John Oliver 1769-1826 buried in Colonial Park Cemetery
    Sarah Ann Edwards Oliver 1793-1865 buried in Laurel Grove Cemetery

    1790 Chatham County Court records: Francis Oliver, William Oliver, James Oliver.

    1799 Columbian Museum Newspaper advertisement for a runaway slave by John Oliver

    1802 Georgia Gaztte named James Oliver as being drawn as a juror.

    Chatham County marriages: William Oliver/Mary Venable 1814, Rebecca L. Oliver/William Wiseman 1818, Margaret Oliver/Robert Scott 1820 (Are they related?)

    1820 CENSUS
    William F. Oliver, 1 male 26-45, 1 female 16-25, 1 female 0-10
    Also on this census:

    Mr. McCarty:
    Males: 0-10 (2), 16-45 (1) dob between 1775-1794 Females: 16-26 (1) bd between 1794-1804.
    Ann McCarty 1 female 16-26 (1794-1804) Is she a young widow or a single woman?
    (both Oliver and Venable married McCarty),
    Warren Dudley,
    John Daniel

    1821 Georgia Land Lottery: William Oliver of Chatham County

    1827 GEORGIA LAND LOTTERY, Joseph Oliver Davis, James Oliver, Soldier with residence of Chatham County. Was this the same James shown in 1790 court records above? Perhaps his son?

    1830 CENSUS:: William Oliver: 1 male 0-5, 1 male 5-10 (James William ?), 1 male 40-50, 1 female 0-5, 1 female 5-10, 1 female 10-15, 1 female 20-30.

    1840 CENSUS: Cornelius McCarty.

    Cornelius is a frequent name on the McCarty pedigree of descendants of Dennis McCarty/Elizabeth Billington. Elizabeth McCarty married a Venable in 1815 in Jackson Co, Ga. There were Cornelius McCarty and John McCarty in Jackson Co, Ga on the 1809 Tax List. There is a Cornelius McCartey on the 1790 census of Lincoln County, NC.

    1850 Savannah list of letters left at post office: William Oliver

    Nov 27, 1850 Newspaper - - The friends and acquaintances of Henry G. Oliver, William H. Bordley and John Lanour are invited to attend the funeral of the latter from Mrs. Oliver's, corner of Zulby and Gall Streets this afternoon at half past 3 o'clock. (There is a Henry G. Oliver and a Mary Decker married in 1885 in Chatham Co, Ga. Parents not on record.)

    1850 CENSUS Chatham: William F. Oliver 59 (NC), Mary 49 (NC), Stephen H. 10, Marie/Mariel 12, Sarah 16

    !850 Slave Schedule: William Oliver, 6 slaves

    1854 Grand Lodges: J. L. Oliver, George Oliver

    1860 Mortality Schedule: George B. Oliver

    Gravel Hill Cemetery in Pooler, Chatham County, Georgia has grave of William Oliver (died 1854 age 64), Mary Oliver (d. 1860 age 60) and son James W Oliver (born 1822, died 1865) Also in that plot are two un-named infants, Georgia Ann Oliver who died at 17 months of age and Stephen who also died in 1862, Nearby is Caroline (Oliver) Cook (1817-1890) and her husband Henry K. Cook (1806-1890) who were married in Chatham County in 1840.

    Because William F. Oliver states in the 1850 Chatham County, Georgia census that he was born in NC and because his tombstone indicates that he was born in 1790, and because he married Mary Venable who was was also born in NC, I have checked the NC records for the NC counties with Venables on the pedigree as well as Oliver.

    Granville Co, NC had Oliver as early as 1758. The Granville County, NC Olivers were from the line of John J. Oliver of York, Dinwiddie and Petersburg, Va. In 1790 Dionysius Oliver from this line married his cousin Polly Oliver (daughter of Frances) in Granville. Also, Granville County has Chesley Daniel. One of his sons and one of his grandsons married Venable women from the line of Abraham Venable and Martha Hannah Davis of Virginia. Descendants of Abraham migrated to Dekalb, Fulton and Gwinnett Counties in Georgia. Mary Venable may be from the Pennsylvanie Oliver line that migrated to SC and NC. They are supposedly related by a common ancestor to the Virginia Venable line of Abraham,

    Granville County Records (connected to Bute/Warren)

    1756: Jacob, natural son of Elinor Adams, to be bound to William Oliver to learn the
    trade of Planter.
    1769 (Bute Co) John Pardue, Fields Pardue , Charles Lyles
    1769 (Bute Co), John Pardue will. Legates: John Pardue, Joll (Joel) Pardue, Morris Pardue, Richard Pardue, Sarah Pardue
    1771 (Bute Co) Adams Pardue
    1776: John Oliver appointed Justice
    1779: (Bute County, North Carolina) Minutes of the Court of Pleas and Quarter
    Sessions,10 November 1779, Ordered that Betsy Lillston Pardue aged Eight years old and Holly Pardue aged five years both born of the body of Phebe Pardue be bound to James Burk & Sarah his wife until they attain the age of Eighteen years the said Master and Mistress to learn them to read and the business of housewifery.
    1788 Tax List: John Oliver, Peter Oliver (b. 1737 York Co, Va married Mary Hewett) Chesley Daniel Mary Oliver, Benjamin McGehee (Sr and Jr), Josiah McGehee, Jesse McGehee, Joseph McGehee, Robert McGehee, Nathan (Nathaniel?) McGehee
    1788 Will of Peter Oliver Will of Francis Oliver
    1790: Dionysius Oliver -m- Frances "Polley" Oliver
    1805: Will of Mary (Hewett) Oliver
    1811: (Warren Co) Tax List: Thomas Oliver, William Pardue, Jr, John Pardue, Pleasant
    Pardue
    War of 1812: Valentine Mayfield, Solomon Satterwhite, William Daniel, Thomas Daniel, Michael Christian, Gilliam McGehee, Anderson Satterwhite, Francis Oliver,
    1814 (Bute Co) Tax List: William B Oliver, Thomas Oliver, Pleasant Pardue, Patram
    Pardue, William Pardue, John Pardue, Jean Pardue, Daniel Pardue, Newsome Pardue
    1851 Lawyer Register: Abraham W. Venable, Thomas V Venable

    Notes:

    John William Oliver (grandson of William F. Oliver and Mary Venable) was living with George W. Pardue in 1870 in Chatham County, Georgia.

    Satterwhite are from the same line that migated to GA and intermarried with descendants of Josiah Daniel (brother of Chesley)

    The McGehee family intermarried with descendants of the Oliver line of York Co Va, Dinwiddie Co,Va and Petersburg, Va.

    NC counties with Oliver and Venable around the time of William F. Olivers birth:

    Granville: 1788: John Oliver, Peter Oliver
    Lincoln: 1790: Thomas Oliver, John Oliver, James Oliver
    Stokes: 1790: Ahjah(???) Oliver, Gilson Oliver
    Surry: 1782-1800: Elijah Oliver

    See Venable records.











  • Birth: 1790 in (Possibly NC)
  • Death: 1854 in Chatham Co, Ga
  • Burial: 1854 Gravel Hill Cem, Pooler, Chatham Co, Ga



    Marriage 1 Mary VENABLE b: BET 1797 AND 1800 in (Possibly NC)
    • Married: 1814 in Chatham Co, Ga
    Children
    1. Has Children James William OLIVER b: 1822 in GA
    2. Has Children Caroline OLIVER b: 1817 in Chatham Co, Ga
    3. Has No Children Stephen H. OLIVER
    4. Has No Children Sarah OLIVER
    5. Has No Children Marie\Mariel OLIVER

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