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  • ID: I11607
  • Name: Thomas Turner
  • Surname: Turner
  • Given Name: Thomas
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: 1662/1664 in Dublin, Ireland
  • Death: ABT 1745 in Frederick Co., Virginia (now West Virginia)
  • Reference Number: B420
  • _UID: 15514789F186D511BDEF00E0293392101D21
  • Note:
    History of Spring Hill Farm Ownership
    http://freshwaterinstitute.org/pdf/turner%20farm%20history.pdf

    While searching for the father of Thomas Turner (1734), I correspondedwith descendants of Roger Turner of Rowan Co. and Surry Co., NorthCarolina. According to family folklore, Roger Turner was born inPennsylvania, lived for a while in Virginia, and eventually moved toRowan Co., North Carolina. Since families tended to move together, Iwondered if my Thomas Turner might be related to him. When Jo Ann Coxwas searching for one of her Rowan Co., North Carolina, ancestors inFrederick Co., Virginia, she found the will of Thomas Turner. In hiswill he left Roger Turner 1/2 of his estate and 1/2 to Anthony Turnerwith five shilling bequeaths to his other children. Could this family bethe one? Family folklore in my Turner family always stated that thefamily came from Virginia before settling in North Carolina but they werenever located in Virginia.

    Jo Ann Cox corresponded with Keith Littman concerning Anthony Turner, hisancestor. According to information supplied by Mr. Littman, ThomasTurner (ca 1664) lived in Frederick County, Virginia, for may years priorto 1744. In 1978, Thomas Turner, VI, still lived on the originalhomestead in Virginia. He told Susanne Wilson Sachs that Thomas Turner(ca 1664) came with his family, wife Susannah, sons Anthony, Robert andRoger and daughters, Sarah and Ann, with other Scotch-Irish Presbyteriansin 1718 to the current home site now located in Berkley Co., WestVirginia. They formed a colony in 1719 establishing the Potomoke (nowShepherdstown)
    Presbyterian Church. Margaret M. Hayes tried to verify this informationby writing to the Presbyterian Church in 1990 but was unable to do so.The original Turner land, still in the possession of the Turner family,was know as the Turner Brothers Spring Hill Farm.

    In 1721 this area was part of Spotsylvania Co., Virginia. In 1734 itbecame part of Orange Co. changing to Frederick Co. in 1743. In 1772 itbecame Berkley Co. and then in 1863 became part of the new state of WestVirginia. The first land grants in the area were issued in 1734 by LordFairfax. Since there is no record of a land grant to Thomas Turner (ca1664) and it is believed he obtained a "tomahawk grant". According toThomas Turner, VI, the Colony of Virginia encouraged settlement bygranting each family "Squatters' Rights" on Fifty acres of land. Afterthe land was cultivated and a home was built, the family was entitled tofifty additional acres of land. Early settlers were escorted into thearea by Indian guides and the land claim was bounded by deadened treeschopped down with a tomahawk, hence the name "tomahawk grant". It ispossible Thomas Turner received his land in this manner. (research doneby Susanne Wilson Sachs-The Wilson Family of Franklin Township, DesMoines County, Iowa). Thomas Turner's land contained
    two of the finest springs in the area and in early years water was theforemost thought when establishing a home-site. It is therefore assumedhe was one of the first settlers in the area.

    The family of Thomas Turner (ca 1664) is constructed from his will,church records, and other miscellaneous records.

    Frederick Co., Virginia Will Book 1 page 24-26
    In the name of God Amen, the 10th day of Feb., in the year of our Lord,
    1743/4. I Thomas Turner in the Co. of Frederick & Colony of Virginiabeing
    very sick & weak in body but of perfect mind & memory, Thanks be givenunto
    God, Therefore calling unto Mind the mortality of my body & knowing thatit
    is appointed for all men to die do make & ordain this my last Will &
    testament that is to say principally & first of all I give & recomd. mysoul
    into the hands of God that gave it, & for my body I recommend it to the
    Earth to be buried in a Christian like form at the discretion of my Ex.
    nothing doubting but at the General Resurrection I shall receive the same
    again by the Mighty Power of God & as touching such worldly estate
    wherein with it hath pleased God to help me in this life I give & disposeof
    the same in the following manner & for Imprimus

    It is my Will & I do order that in the first place all my just debts &
    funeral charges be pd. & satisfied & 10 lbs out of my whole estate to myson
    Anthony Turner further it is my design to cont. with him during my life.

    Item- I give to my son John Turner, five shillings.
    Item- I give to my son Robert Turner, five Shillings.
    Item- I give to my dau. Ann Sullen (Sutten) five shillings
    Item- I give to my dau Sarah Pickren, five shillings.

    Further as I said before I design to live with my son Anthony Turnerduring
    my life to be maintained out of my substance.

    Item. Further it is my will & desire when what I have already mentionedis
    pd what is remaining to be equally Divided between my son Antony Turner &
    Roger Turner & likewise my son Anthony Turner I constitute make & ordainhim
    only & Executor of this my last will & Testament all & singular my goods &
    chattels lands messages, tenements to his heirs & assigns forever after my
    decease he performing all what I have already mentioned & I do hereby
    disallow revoke & disannul all other former testaments Wills Lagues &Enno.
    by me in an ways before this time named willed & bequeathed ratifying &
    confirming this & no others to be my Last Will & Testament. In Wit,whereof
    I have hereunto set my hand the Day Year before Writte.
    Witnesses
    Theeop Norwood Thomas "TT" Turner
    Robert "mark" Evins
    Mathew "M" Evins
    Proved in court, Frederick Co., 8 June 1744

    There are many references to a Thomas Turner in the early records ofPennsylvania and Virginia. In Immigration of Irish Quakers intoPennsylvania, 1682-1750 by Albert Cook Myers, 1902 page 53 "William Pennactive in Ireland, using his influence to relieve his fellow members(Quakers) from their sufferings (ca. 1669). Irish friends were among thefirst to whom he opened his Pennsylvania project." I believe ThomasTurner was one of these Irish immigrants. There is some documentedevidence to verify this. Using Anthony Turner Sr and his son AnthonyTurner Jr as corroborating evidence, I feel these references are for thisThomas Turner.

    Pennsylvania Vital Records Vol 1 p 17 Quaker Marriage Certificate - Henry
    Hollingsworth of New Castle Co., Pennsylvania, (Del) & Lidia Atkinson ofCo.
    Ardmah, Ireland, 22nd day, 6th mo (August), 1688 at their public meeting
    house at John Robson's Thomas Turner was among the witnesses.

    Quaker Arrivals at Philadelphia, 1682-1750, by Myers: Thomas Turner, on a
    religious visit, dated 7 mo., (sept.) 24, 1697, from Quarterly Mtg. of
    Coxall, Essex, England, Received 5 mo 28, 1704. Not recorded.

    Wm. Penn, from Two Days' Meeting, by apptmt., at London, Eng., dtd 6 mo.
    (aug) 11, 1699 "postscript, Our dear friends Thos: Turner, Will: Ellis,
    Walter Fossett of our Country and Tho. Chalkly are all safely Arrived some
    tyme since..."

    There is also record of a Thomas Turner in The Welcom Claimants Proved,
    Disproved And Doubtful with an account of Some of Their Descendants by
    George E. McCracken. Page 608-609

    "Mr. Henry Hollingsworth, who possesses a copy of the records of theFriends
    Meeting at Lurgan, co., Armagh, Northern Ireland, has kindly supplied me
    with the following record of a Turner family of that meeting which may or
    may not pertain to that Robert Turner who came to America on the Griffin,as
    described above on p. 504.
    Thomas Turner son of Robert Turner, of Turners towne in Northumberland(sic)
    in England and of Deborah his wife, was borne at Turnerstown aforesaid in
    the years, 1618 and about the second month ANNO DOMINI, 1652 he took to
    Wife, Ann the daughter of James Greer (of ye rock near Annick inCumberland
    (sic), aforesaid and of Mary his wife who was born at Annick aforesaid in
    the year, 1633, and had by her Children borne as followeth,
    Deborah Turner first daughter of Thomas Turner and of Ann his wife wasborn
    about Eighteenth day of the eleventh month Anno Dom 1653.
    Robert Turner first son of Thomas Turner, and of Ann his Wife was bornein
    England, about ye Eighteenth day of the Eleventh month Anno Domini, 1655,
    (Was he on the Griffin?)
    Mabell Turner .....1st month A.D. 1657 in England
    And about ye beginning of the first month in the years 1658, the said
    Thomas Turner with his wife and children (yet were living) came toIreland.
    John Turner.....born at Tougherraine in the Count of Downe 4 lst mo.1660.
    (P. 226 has the place of birth as in Parish of Magherlin, co. Downe)
    Thomas Turner....borne Drummunically Parish of Sego Co., Ardmagh 25 5thmo
    1662.
    James.......ditto 2 mo. 1664..
    Jacob.....do. 26 2 mo 1665.
    Bethiah...born at tearsoye or tearsoge (Torsoghe) Par of Shankell Co
    Ardmagh 20 12 mo 1667.
    Mary....born Lurgan Co Armagh, beginning of ye second month A.D. 1669
    Nathanniell Turner....Lurgan 18 11th mo A.D. 1673

    Mr. Hollingsworth also has a copy of the 1664 Hearth Tax for Shankill and
    Seagoe Parishes and finds Thomas Turner had a hearth and paid 2 shillingsat
    Drumnescally."

    It is very possible that the above mentioned Thomas Turner born in 1662 is
    the same man who moved to America.

    Carolina Cradle by Ramsey p. 84
    Thomas Turner was in New Castle Co., Del in 1739.

    I am not certain the above references would be for Thomas Turner of
    Frederick Co., Virginia, but he did have dealings in the area as well as
    family living there. According to Anthony Turner Jr, son of AnthonyTurner
    Sr named above, declared in a deposition filed and recorded in AugustaCo.,
    Virginia, records "Anthony Turner deposes: That he came into this State,
    now Berkeley Co., with his father, Anthony Turner, decd, on May 1740. He
    was then 8 yrs. Old. He lived there until fall of 1751, when he removedto
    New Castle Co.: removed from there Aug. 1762 to Carolinas: made frequent
    moves but returned to Berkeley Co., in Dec 1773. " Anthony Turner Sr. died
    in 1762 and his will is recorded in Frederick Co., Virginia.

    As early as 1730 Anthony Turner Sr. lived in Philadelphia Co.,Pennsylvania.
    In Christ Church Parish records two of his children were baptized. Sarah
    Turner was baptized 22 Nov 1730 20 weeks old and Simon Turner was baptized
    20 May 1736 age 14 Mos 3 wks. In 1734 Anthony Turner Sr. lived in Amity Town in Philadelphia County (Landholder lists). While living in Mahanetany Twp his son Anthony Turner was baptized 10 February 1732 (born January 21, 1732) The witnesses for the baptism were John Ellis, Thomas Turner and Susannah Turner. (Stoever Records researched by John P. Dern, obtained from Jo Ann Cox)

    It is important to note that John Ellis was one of the witnesses to the baptism of Antony (Anthony) Turner Jr. The Ellis family is a link with the Turner family showing connections to the Philadelphia area of Pennsylvania, Frederick Co., Virginia, and later Rowan Co., North Carolina.
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    Subj: Re: Turner genealogy
    Date: 2/15/07 5:38:11 AM Pacific Standard Time
    From: turner146@yahoo.com (Laura Turner)
    To: WJhonson@aol.com

    Yes, it's the same land and the same Thomas Turner born in Dublin abt 1664. When Thomas died, it was still Fredrick County, Virginia. Originally the land was in Virginia but over time the borders/counties changed and the property is now in Shepherdstown, Jefferson County West Virginia. The property is on Turner Road. I had quite a few pictures of the farmhouse and land but my computer crashed and everything was lost. I was heartbroken. I do plan to travel there again. Many years ago I did go to the Spotsylvania courthouse to see Thomas Turners will. This is a link to the towns history: http://www.shepherdstownvisitorscenter.com/history.asp

    Not sure if this is an active family you are researching. By any chance have you located his father?? Some think he is Edward Turner and his mother is Mary Sanford who were married in Boston. I have doubts.
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  • Change Date: 16 Feb 2007 at 00:00:00



    Father: Edward Turner b: 1600/1647
    Mother: Ann b: 1614/1650

    Marriage 1 Susannah Anthony b: 1662/1664
    • Married: ABT 1685
    Children
    1. Has No Children Anthony Turner b: 1683 in Frederick Co., Virginia
    2. Has Children John Turner b: 1685 in Frederick Co., Virginia (now West Virginia)
    3. Has No Children Robert Turner b: 1687 in Frederick Co., Virginia
    4. Has No Children Roger Turner b: 1689 in Frederick Co., Virginia
    5. Has No Children Ann Turner b: 1691 in Frederick Co., Virginia
    6. Has No Children Sarah Turner b: 1693 in Frederick Co., Virginia

    Sources:
    1. Repository:

        Title: Input from V. Darcy Slaugther
        Note:
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        NS176823

        Source Media Type: Electronic

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