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  • ID: I11633
  • Name: John George
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 1615
  • Death: 12 SEP 1666 in Watertown Farms (now Westerly), Mass
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    He was one of the founders of the First Baptist Church in Boston, Mass. He was run out of Boston (Charlestown) April 2, 1651 for Baptist teachings. Then established First Baptist Church in Charleston, Mass. Some say he was a Quaker.

    He was apprenticed to Gov. John Winthrope for eight years, likely for his passage money. He was before General Court on January 2, 1640. He resided in Watertown, MA. He created a great scandal by his Baptist leanings in Charlestown where he resided in 1650.

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    There are many people on the rootsweb.com that claim John is the son of John George and Anne Goldstone, the widow of Henry Goldstone. This simply cannot be possible as I see it. I will use "The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-33" by Robert Charles Anderson (Boston, 1995) as a source. This is considered one of the definite works on the earliest immigrants to New England.
    The following are portions of the bio on Henry Goldstone from Anderson's work:
    -- DEATH: Buried Watertown 25 July 1638 "46 years old"
    -- The inventory of "all such goods as were widow Gouldstone's in her possession before she entered into a married state," taken on an unknown date, totalled 188 11d., none of which was real estate, and was presented on 29 June 1647 by "Anne Geor[ge] late wife of Henry Gouldston".
    The inventory of the "moveable goods, chattels & debts of John George of Watertown," taken 12 June 1647, was presented on 29 June 1647 by "Ann George, the wife of the said John George".
    -- MARRIAGE: By about 1616 Anne _____, who was born about 1590 (aged 45 in 1634); "aged 79" on 26 April 1670. She married (2) by 1647 John George, and she died at Watertown 26 April 1670 ("Hannah George, widow, aged 79 years").

    From the above we know a few things. 1) Henry Goldstone died in 1638, 2) sometime between 1638 and 1647, Anne married John George, 3) Anne died in 1670.

    Now the problem arises that Anne could not possibly be the mother of John George who married Elizabeth ___, and was the father of Elizabeth who married John Glazier. Elizabeth George (the daughter) married John Glazier at least by 1662 as they had a child in Woburn, MA in 1663. Even if she were a young bride, say 16, she would have been born by 1646 or 1647. For her father, John George, to be the son of Anne (the widow of Henry Goldstone), he couldn't have been more than 8 or 9 when he had Elizabeth. Not possible.

    "Suffolk County Wills" By Jusith McGhan (1984) contains the dispostion of the estate of John George of Watertown (mentioned above) in which the widow is named as Anne George. There are only 2 children mentioned in that disposition - Robert and Susan.
    There could have been other children and perhaps one of them was named John, but as shown above, Anne Goldstone could not have been his mother.

    From "The Genealogies and Estates of Charelstown" by Thomas Bellows Wyman (1879):
    "GEORGE JOHN, Inhabitant, 29 (5) 1650; chosen chimney-sweeper, 1650-1. John George and family allowed to remain in town till April 2, 1651; m. ELIZABETH_____ , who m. (2) Henry Herbert, 1668; d. Sept. 12, 1666. Will, nuncupative, entered and recorded 18 (10) 1666, devised to wife and 6 chn.; witness, Thomas Osborn. Inventory, taken Sept. 12, 41. lss,ue.- i. Elizabeth, m. (1) .John Glazier prior to 1663; (2) ______ Pope prior to 1693. ii. Martha. m. William Munroe prior to 1666. iii. Ruth, m. (1) Samuel Frothingham 1668; (2) Abraham Bryant, 1688. iv. Hannah, m. James Miller 1673. v. Mary, bapt. April 15, 1677; m. Joseph Dowse 1678. vi. John m. (1) Elizabeth Marsh, March 25, 1679, who d. 1683, (2) Mary Lowden, 1688)."

    Marriage 1 Elizabeth
      1. Has Children Elizabeth George b: ABT 1641
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