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  • ID: I588388077
  • Name: Archibald DUNCAN
  • Given Name: Archibald
  • Surname: Duncan
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: December 7, 1806 in Houston, Scotland
  • Death: November 16, 1880 in Charleston, SC (verified by the Charleston SC Probate Court Records)
  • Census: 1860 Charleston South Carolina Ward 3
  • Census: 1870 Charleston South Carolina Ward 3
  • Census: 1880 Charleston South Carolina District 60
  • Occupation: Blacksmith 1860 Charleston
  • Occupation: Blacksmith 1870 Charleston
  • Occupation: Blacksmith and Boilermaker 1880 Charleston
  • Census: 1850 South Carolina,Charleston,St. Michael and St. Phillip Parish Pg.180, #326-364
  • Event: The 1880 Census shows Archibald living with family at 7 Middle Street, Charleston, SC Property 1880 Charleston South Carolina
  • Census: 1861 1861 Special Census - Charleston (details below)
  • Burial: November 1880 2nd Presbyterian Church, Charleston, SC
  • Christening: December 4, 1806 Houston, Renfrew, Scotland parents John Duncan and Mary Sommerville
  • Note:
    Registration of Births, Deaths and Marriages (Scotland) Act 19656. s47
    Parish of Barony County of Lanark. #143680
    Barony Parish Register of Births and Baptisms for May 1841
    Duncan: Archibald Duncan boilermaker PittStreet??, Marion Cuthbertson had a lawful son their 6th child born 3 May 1841 named Alexander, Alex. Wm. Duncan witness. (my note: I think the witness is Archibald's brother for whom this child was named).

    In the 1874 and 1875-76 Charleston City Directory, Archibald Duncan owns A. Duncan & Son, which is described as a boilermaker firm or a machinist.

    Archibald Duncan was born to John Duncan and Mary Sommerville on 12/1/1806 or 12/6/1806 or 12/7/1806 (There are 3 conflicting records) in Houston, Renfrew, Scotland. This record is found in LDS Batch # 1324235 Sheet 56 Source Call # 0822900. John and Mary christened Archibald on 12/4/1806 or 12/14/1806 in Houston, Renfrew, Scotland. These birth dates match Archibald's death register record in Charleston South Carolina in 1880.

    Archibald Duncan named his third? daughter "Mary Sommerville Duncan" (b. 1850 SC), in honor of his mother. (Traditionally in Scotland, the SECOND daughter is named for the Father's mother.)

    Archibald Duncan:
    Birth: 07 DEC 1806
    Christening: 14 DEC 1806 Houston And Killellan, Renfrew, Scotland
    Father: JOHN DUNCAN
    Mother: SUMMERVILE
    Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C115652 1720 - 1819 1041065, 0102064 Film 6900503 Film Sheet: 00

    Archibald's parents, John Duncan and Mary Sommervel (Sommerville) married on 1/27/1803 in Houston and Killellan, Renfrew, Scotland. Source: Scotland,Renfrew,Houston-Church Records
    Recorded by LDS
    batch# M115652 Dates 1720-1819
    Source Call # 1041065, 0102064
    Filim Printout Call# 6900504

    ARCHIBALD DUNCAN married MARION CUTHBERTSON Marriage: 07 AUG 1829 Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew, Scotland
    Source Information: LDS records. Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M119589 1819 - 1836 1041090, 0889472 Film 6901525 Film Sheet: 00

    International Genealogical Index - British Isles
    LDS Patron Sheets
    Source Information:
    Batch Number: 7224219
    Sheet: 54
    Source Call No.: 0822012
    Archibald's son, Alexander Duncan, who was born May 3, 1841 Barony, Lanark, Scotland records show his
    Parents are Archibold (Archibald) Duncan and Marion Cuthbertson.

    All children shown on the LDS records as born to Archibald and Marion include William, Archibald, Alexander and John, birthdates match this family's census records in Charleston South Carolina. Archibald and Marion named their children using the Traditional Scottish naming convention, as follows:

    First son John named for Archibald's father John Duncan
    Second son William named for Marion's father William Cuthbertson
    Third son Archibald Jr. named for father Archibald Duncan
    Fourth son Alexander named for the oldest brother of Archibald, Alexander Duncan
    Fifth son James named for the oldest brother of Marion, James Cuthbertson

    I have found three of Archibald's siblings born in Scotland as of 1841 include:
    Alexander Duncan (born November 21, 1803; Houston and Killellan, Renfrew, Scotland)
    Mary Duncan (born March 28, 1805; Houston and Killellan, Renfrew, Scotland)
    William Duncan (born May 21, 1808; Houston and Killellan, Renfrew, Scotland)

    Archibald Duncan died November 16, 1880

    The City of Charleston Death Register shows as follows:
    Archibald Duncan
    Died at age 74 years, 11 months, 9 days
    born in Houston, Scotland
    resided in Charleston 38 years, 6 months
    resided at 7 Middle St. at time of death
    occupation was boilermaker
    died of intersusception
    died 11-16-1880
    buried 2d Presbyterian
    white male

    Later, in March of 1887, his third wife, and widow, Alice Duncan, asked the Court of officially make her the administratrix of the Estate. It is not explained why she needed to be named the representative of the Estate.

    Later, a similar application was made by Archibald's grandson in 1917. Apparently, there was a sum of money which it was thought might have belonged to the Estate of Archibald Duncan. Because Archibald died without a will, his estate passed by operation of law to his relatives in portions established by law. Here is what Archibald's grandson described (in 1917), as the heirs of Archibald Duncan as of the time of Archibald's death:

    Widow Alice Duncan. Archibald's children were as follows: John Dunca, Alexander Duncan, James Duncan, Mary Duncan Mitchell, Jane Ann Castello, Donald J. S. Duncan, Elizabeth Stafford, Catherine Duncan Westerlund (the mother of the grandson applying to be the representative), and Adelaide Duncan Cargill. Two of Archibald's adult children predeceased him (William Duncan and Archibald Duncan, Jr.) so their children are instead listed on this application. Children who died without heirs are not listed.

    This is the record of the Probate of his estate, his wife is Administratrix:
    Charleston County Probate Court Archives
    Case Number: 316 0015
    Name On Case: DUNCAN , ARCHIBOLD
    Fiduciary: DUNCAN ALICE
    Date of Case: 3/10/1887
    Roll Number: 059 Frame Number: 1772

    Brig Stilman
    Glasgow, Scotland to New York, 11 May 1842
    44 Arch Duncan 34 Male Blacksmith Great Britain United States 1808
    62 Mary Duncan 28 Female Mother Great Britain United States 1814
    63 * Duncan * 6 * Children Great Britain United States 1836
    64 * Duncan * 4 * Great Britain United States 1838
    65 * Duncan * 2 * Great Britain United States 1840

    New York, 1820-1850 Passenger and Immigration Lists Record
    about Archd Duncan
    Name: Archd Duncan
    Arrival Date: May 11, 1842
    Age: 34
    Gender: U
    Port of Arrival: New York
    Port of Departure: Glasgow
    Place of Origin: Great Britain
    Ship: Stillman
    Family Identification: 30075279
    Microfilm Serial Number: M237
    Microfilm Roll Number: 48

    Last name spelled DUNKIN in 1850 census, but DUNCAN from that point forward.
    The 1850 United States Federal Census,South Carolina,Charleston,St Michael and St Phillip shows Archibald (a blacksmith born in Scotland)claiming to be 37 (b. abt 1813) spelling his last name Dunkin with his wife and children, and an adult woman named Catherine Ryan 28 years old born in Ireland. She may be the housekeeper because she does not appear in the next census. Wife is Mary 35 Scotland. Children include John 16 Scotland, Wm. 13 Scotland, Archibald 4 Scotland, Alexander 9 Scotland, James 7 Scotland, Margaret 4 South Carolina, Sarah 3 South Carolina, Mary 8/12 South Carolina, and Catherine RYAN 28 b. abt. 1821, Ireland. Sarah is not in the family in the 1860 census, so possibly she died. Catherine Ryan is also not in the 1860 census.

    His wife Mary died between 1850 and 1854.

    The next census shows him living with Jane A, new wife?

    The 1860 Census, 3ed Ward , Charleston South, Carolina, shows Andrew living with many children ranging in age from 25 years to 4 months of age, including his children with 1st wife Mary including John, William, Archibald, Alexander, James, Margaret, Mary, and his children with second wife? Jane including Jane, Elizabeth and Donnald. He claims his parents were both born in Scotland, and claims that he, also, was born in Scotland. His occupation is "Blacksmith" in that census. He claims to be "56" in 1860, so that would make his year of birth approximately 1804. Jane A. died in 1861. We have found her grave at the 2nd Preb. Church in Charleston, SC. She is buried with three small children, the headstone dedicated to her by her daughter, Mrs. R. Morillo.

    There was a special census in 1861 in Charleston. In that census, there are two Archibald Duncan names listed as follows:
    1) page 85. East Side Ward #1. #178 East Bay Street (Runs north from Ashley River, at East end of South Bay Street, through wards Nor 1&3, to Calhoun Street. Archibald Duncan owns home. Wood structure.
    2) page 147 East Side Ward # 3. Unit # 94. Onwer of home, Tr. Est. Mrs. J. C. Thwing. Occupied by Archibald Duncan.
    This could be Archibald and his son Archibald, or another man with the same name.
    The 1860 & 1870 federal census show Archibald living in Ward #3.

    Archibald is found in the next census living with Alice.

    In 1870 Census, Arch claims to be born in 1810, and was living with his next wife?, Ale (Alice), still in Charleston, with his daughter by his first wife Mary whoi is also named Mary, and with children by his second wife? Jane A. including Jane, Elizabeth and Donnald, and also with his two children with Alice, including Cattie and Adelaide, and Also with his 6 year old nephew Archibald E. who is most likely the son of Archibald Jr who died in 1867. Also in the home is Archibald Sr.'s neice Alice E. Stowell.

    Also, In 1870 we find father Arch, and sons Alexander, John and James still living in Charleston. What happened to sons William (b. 1839) and Archibald (b. 1837)? Did they die in the war? Did they move to another state? We know that Mary is found living with brother Alexander in 1880. Need to track Martha and Sarah. (I believe now that Sarah died in the 1850's as she was not present in the 1860 census.)

    In 1880, Arch claims to be 73 (which would make him born in 1807), he lives with Alice, and they are still in Charleston, this time living with Cattie and Adelaide (their two children), as well as nephew Archibale E (son of Archibald Duncan Jr.) who is now 16 and an apprentice Boilermaker, and with his neice Alice E. Stowell, who is now 24, and at the time of the census, is sick with an absess. Arch lists his occupation as blacksmith and boilermaker.

    By 1889, Archibald has died, as indicated in the directory record below:

    Charleston, South Carolina Directory, 1888-90 Record
    about Alice Duncan, widow Archibald.
    Name Alice Duncan, widow Archibald
    Location boards 9 Middle
    Year 1889
    City Charleston
    State South Carolina

    Our Andrew Archibald was a blacksmith, and is listed in three census documents as a blacksmith and boilermaker.

    Buried in 2nd Presbyterian Churchyard, Meeting St. Charleston
    Deatg CERT list as" Boilermaker"

    Obit from Charleston News and Courier Nov. 17, 1880:
    "Funeral services at the Second Presbyterian Church 4PM Weds."
    "Mechanics Union No. 1 of Charleston, SC-you are hereby summoned to appear at the Eagle Fire Company's Hall on this Weds afternoon at 3 o'clock to pay the last tribute of respect to your Brother Member, Archibald Duncan, by order Ed. A. Loyal, Secretary"

    "The Officers and Members of Washington Lodge No. 5 A. F. M. are requested to meet at Masonic Hall This afternoon at 3 o'clock to attend the Funeral of their late Brother, Arch'd Duncan. By order of the W. M.
    J. Shaw, Secretary

    the church itself published a small "manual" for its members which included the rules of the church, some church teachings, and things like that. It also listed all the members of the church. In the first such handbook, which was published in 1834, there was no mention of the Duncan family. However, when the book was reprinted in 1894, it contained a complete list of all the people who had been members of the church and their dates of admission.

    Here were the Duncans that appeared:

    Name Admitted Status
    Archibald Duncan Oct. 1843 Dead
    Mrs. A. Duncan Oct. 1843 Dead
    Mrs. Jane A. Duncan April 1852 Dismissed (There were lots of "dismissed" which I took to mean just that they had moved away or something.)
    Margaret A.S. Duncan Feb. 1868 (Blank - which I understood to mean still active)
    Jane Ann Duncan August 1870 "
    Mary S. Duncan August 1870 "
    Mrs. Agnes Duncan May 1873 "
    Adelaide O.B. Duncan May 1885 "

    What I found interesting is that Alexander and his brothers were not members. Why would there only be female members of the family listed? Did the sons never join?

    Is this Archibald Duncan related to our Archibald Duncan?
    U.K. and U.S. Directories, 1680-1830 Record
    about Archibald Duncan
    Name: Archibald Duncan
    Dates: 1776-1800
    Town: Charleston
    American County:South Carolina charleston
    Occupation: black smith
    Gender: Male
    Address: No.91, Church street
    Town: Charleston
    American County: South Carolina
    Source Date: 1790
    Source Info:
    Listed in, [Charleston, 1790] The Charleston Directory; and Revenue System of the United States, 1790, MILLIGAN, Jacob, Charleston. Printed by T. B. Bowen

    U.K. and U.S. Directories, 1680-1830 Record
    about Archibald Duncan
    Name: Archibald Duncan
    Dates: 1801-1825
    Town: Charleston
    American County:South Carolina
    South Carolina charleston
    Occupation: black smith
    Gender: Male
    Address: shop: 118, Queen street
    house: 103, Queen street
    Town: Charleston
    American County: South Carolina
    South Carolina
    Source Date: 1802
    Source Info:
    Listed in, [Charleston, 1802] New Charleston Directory, and Strangersís Guide, for the year 1802. Being the twenty-sixth and twenty-seventh of the independence of the United States of America, 1802, NEGRIN, J. J., Charleston. Printed by John A. Dacqueny, No. 42, Bay

    Father: John DUNCAN b: December 10, 1775 in Renfrew, Renfrew, Scotland
    Mother: Mary SOMMERVEL b: April 2, 1784 in Blantyre, Lanark, Scotland

    Marriage 1 Marion CUTHBERTSON b: September 2, 1816 in Barony, Lanark, Scotland
    • Married: 8/7/1829 in Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew, Scotland
    1. Has Children Alexander DUNCAN b: May 2, 1841 in Glasgow, Barony, Lanark, Scotland
    2. Has Children John DUNCAN b: February 3, 1835 in Govan, Lanark, Scotland
    3. Has Children William DUNCAN b: 9/30/1836 in Govan, Lanark, Scotland c: 11 SEP 1836 in Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland
    4. Has Children Archibald Jr. DUNCAN b: 1/13/1839 in Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland
    5. Has Children James A DUNCAN b: 1844 in South Carolina
    6. Has No Children Margaret A. S. DUNCAN b: 1/22/1846 in South Carolina
    7. Has No Children Mary Somerville DUNCAN b: June 4, 1850 in Charleston, South Carolina
    8. Has No Children Sarah DUNCAN b: 1847 in South Carolina
    9. Has No Children Agnes DUNCAN b: September 27, 1830 in Abbey, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland

    Marriage 2 Alice Ale UNKNOWN b: May 1829 in South Carolina or New York (census docs say both)
    • Married: abt. 1864 in Charleson South Carolina
    1. Has Children Alice Catherine (Cattie) DUNCAN b: August 21, 1865 in South Carolina
    2. Has No Children Adelaide DUNCAN b: May 1867 in South Carolina

    Marriage 3 Jane A UNKNOWN b: 1821 in England?
    • Married: abt 1853 in South Carolina
    1. Has No Children Jane A. DUNCAN b: Jan 4, 1854 in Charleston South Carolina
    2. Has Children Elizabeth DUNCAN b: 1857 in Charleston South Carolina
    3. Has No Children Donnald J. S. DUNCAN b: 1860 in Charleston South Carolina
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