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  • ID: I11721
  • Name: Edmund Thorpe
  • Suffix: 5th Baron Thorpe
  • Sex: M
  • Death: JUN 1418 in Louviers, France
  • Residence: Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk
  • Occupation: Commissioner of Array
  • Cause: Said to have died at siege of Louviers
  • BATT: Siege of Louviers (said to have died)
  • MEM: Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk: Effigy in full armour with wife
  • Note:

    EDMUND (DE THORPE), LORD THORPE, son and heir, was never summoned to parliament, but was knight of the shire for Norfolk 1397-98 and 1407. He was Commer. of array, Mar 1392, to enquire into the wastage of lands,1400, and de walliis et Fossatis, 1408, all in Norfolk. Being retained to stay with the king for life, he was granted a pension of 50 marks p.a. 7 Jan 1392/3, increased to 100 marks by Henry IV, 22 Nov. and 6 Dec. 1399, out of the issues of the town of Kings Lynn, and was confirmed by Henry V, 30 Sep 1413. In Spr 1399 he has protection, going with Richard II on his disastrous journey to Ireland. Having accompanied Henry V to France in 1417 (with 10 Lances and 33 archers), he was appointed Commr. of Array there, 27 Oct 1417, and a Commr. to redress infractions of truce between the king and Duke of Burgundy,28 Apr 1418.
    He is said to have married, Firstly, 6 Oct 1368, Margaret, daughter of Richard DE LA RIVERE. He then married? Secondly, between 28 July 1387 and 3 March 1387/8, Joan widow of Roger (DE SCALES), 4th Lord Scales (who died 25 Dec 1386), daughter of John DE NORTHWOOD. She died 3 Jan 1414/5 and was buried as Ashwellthorpe. Will dated 29 Sep 1414,pr. 21 Apr 1415.
    He is said to have died at the Siege of Louviers (June 1418) in Normandy and he certainly died . s.p.m. before 31 Aug 1422 (i.e in the lifetime of Henry V) being buried at Ashwellthorpe ( His effigy there in full armour, and that of his wife, of white alabaster,lie under a wooden canopy, The arms quartered on his tomb, including Thorpe, Baynard, Northwood,Clifton, Barrey, Kerdeston and Calthorp).
    At his death the barony of Thorpe (of the assumption that it existed) fell, according to modern doctrine, into abeyance between his 2 daughters and coheirs by his 2nd wife :- (i) Joan, married Firstly Sir Robert ECHINGHAM, and Secondly, Sir John CLIFTON, of Old Buckingham, Norfolk, who died 1447. She survived him, but died s.p.s. (ii) Isabel, married Philip TYLNEY and died 10 Nov 1436, being buried at Ashwellthorpe.
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  • Change Date: 21 AUG 2007

    Father: Edmund Thorpe b: 29 AUG 1319
    Mother: Joan Baynard b: in Colkirk, Norfolk

    Marriage 1 Joan de Northwood
    • Married: AFT DEC 1386
    1. Has Children Isabel Thorpe b: in Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk
    2. Has Children Joane Thorpe
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