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  • ID: I12566
  • Name: Alice De La Plaunche
  • Sex: F
  • Death: AFT 1308
  • Note: 1

    CP Volume 9, page 128:
    He [John de Montfort (d. 1296)] m. Alice, da. of William DE LA PLAUNCHE, between 1286 and 1289. ... His widow Alice had dower in Nov. 1296. In 1303 she recovered the manors of Preston and Uppingham against the heir.

    Alice was a kinswoman of Queen Eleanor, presumably through a descent of her father from the queen's Fiennes cousins [J. C. Parsons, The Court and Household of Eleanor of Castile in 1290 (Toronto, 1977), pp. 48-50]. John and Alice were married by 28 March 1287 [ibid., p. 50, citing P.R.O. SC 1/45/46], and Alice was still living in Easter Term 1309 [M. S. Arnold, ed., Select Cases of Trespass from the King's Court, 1307-1399, vol. 1 (Selden Society 100, 1985), pp. 126, 127].
    Alice is one of a group of four "damsels" of the chamber who appear frequently throughout Queen Eleanor's wardrobe account book for 1289-90 and in one entry are described as kinswomen of the queen. That Alice's kinship came through her father is indicated by a reference in 1286 to the lord (dominus) de la Plaunche as a kinsman of the queen [Parsons, loc. cit., p. 50, citing P.R.O. E 101/352/4, m. 4]. A descent from the queen's Fiennes cousins is suggested by the later presence of a family known as "de Fiennes de la Plaunche" in the Boulonnais, bearing arms similar to those of the Fiennes family.
    [Douglas Richardson, in March 2004, provided the evidence of Alice's survival, and referred to Parson's earlier work.
  • _UID: 58E8A3AE127F4CC0A1856F4B04B617C4A3BD
  • Change Date: 4 NOV 2005

    Father: William De La Plaunche

    Marriage 1 John De Montfort
    • Married: BEF 28 MAR 1287
    1. Has Children Piers De Montfort
    2. Has Children Maud de Montfort
    3. Has No Children Alice or Elizabeth De Montfort

    1. Text: Some Corrections and Additions to The Complete Peerage
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