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  • ID: I13493
  • Name: Robert FitzRoy de Caen
  • Suffix: 1st Earl of Gloucester
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 1090 in Caen, Normandy, France 1
  • Death: 31 OCT 1147 in Bristol, Glos
  • Burial: Tewkesbury Abbey, Glos
  • Note: 1 2

    An undoubted Earl of Gloucester, perhaps the first authentic one, at any rate after the Conquest, is Robert FitzHamon's son-in-law, another Robert, who was an illegitimate son of Henry I and was so created 1122. The Earldom passed to his eldest son, William FitzRobert, and from him to John, later King John and husband from 1189 to 1199 (when he divorced her) of Isabel, the youngest of William FitzRobert's three daughters. On John's coming to the throne the title did not merge in the Crown for it was not his in his own right but in right of his wife.
    [From Burke's Peerage]
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    Jim Weber among others say his mother was Nesta verch Rhys - many others just say ?a concubine?.
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    Bierbrier article does not mention who his mother was.
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    In 1092 Llantrisant Castle was fortified by Robert the Consul Earl of Gloucester on the site of Gwrgan ap Ithel's original castle. Robert married Mabel, daughter of Robert Fitzhamon.
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  • Change Date: 28 JUN 2008



    Father: Henry I ?Beauclerc? of England b: 1068 in Selby, Yorks, England
    Mother: Nesta Verch Rhys

    Marriage 1 Mabel FitzHamon
    • Married:
    Children
    1. Has Children Maud FitzRobert of Gloucester b: ABT 1120
    2. Has Children Christian of Gloucester
    3. Has Children William Fitzrobert b: 23 NOV 1116
    4. Has Children Richard de Creully

    Marriage 2 Mistress of Robert de Caen
    • Married:
    Children
    1. Has Children Robert FitzRobert

    Sources:
    1. Type: Gedcom File
      Title: Jim Weber
      URL: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jweber
    2. Text: Illegitimate Lines of Descent from Henry I
      M L Bierbrier
      Genealogists? Magazine June 2004
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