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  • ID: I16509
  • Name: Philip de la Vache
  • Suffix: KG
  • Prefix: Sir
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: 1346
  • Death: 1407 1
  • Occupation: Captain of Castle of Calais
  • Note: 2 3 4

    The manor of Church-end in Shenley, was in the reign of King Edward I. (1272-1307) in the family of Vache, from whom it passed by an heir female to the Greys. Sir Giles Daubeny purchased it of Lord Grey of Wilton in 1505, and, in 1520, sold it to the Pigots.
    Thomas Maunsell had left two daughters, Mabel and Alice. Mabel was married to the son of Richard de la Vache, also called Richard. Alice married Robert Verdon in about 1283 without her guardian?s permission, and entered on certain lands in Shenley which Margery, widow of Thomas Maunsell held in dower (widow?s share of her husband?s estate). This led to trouble with Richard de la Vache the elder, against whom the Verdons brought a suit in 1284. This was to obtain possession of their moiety (half) of the manor, and both Richard de la Vache the elder and the heirs of Thomas Maunsell laid claim to the manorial rights in Shenley that year. In 1285 both sisters and their husbands redeemed their father?s lands from William de Aette and divided Shenley between them. The moiety appertaining to the Vaches was settled by them in the following year on Robert de Broughton. It was later seized by The Crown for their default against Thomas Poyle, and an attempt to regain it in 1290 evidently succeeded, for in 1294 Richard de la Vache was dealing with land in Shenley. In 1308 he settled his Shenley property on himself for life, with remainder successively to his sons Matthew and Richard and his daughter Maud and their heirs.
    Matthew succeeded to Shenley before 1316. In 1326 a settlement was made by Walter de la Vache of a messuage (dwelling house and adjacent buildings) and 24 acres of land in Shenley on himself for life, with remainder successively to William, son of Wymark of Shenley, to Joan, sister of William, to Walter, son of Matthew de la Vache, Thomas his brother and Walter?s heirs. The Vache?s moiety of Shenley Maunsell Manor; as it was called in the 14th and 15th centuries, descended with their manors in Aston Clinton and Chalfont St. Giles with which it was included in the settlements in the late 14th and early 15th centuries. It passed with Aston Clinton to the Kirkham?s, and after the death of Anne Kirkham in 1427, then a widow, it was held by a John Kirkham, who is described as of Shenley in 1435.
    Warner de Vacca, who appears in 1166 holding a fee of Hamon son of Meinfelin, (fn. 51) was doubtless the ancestor of Richard de la Vache, whose right and that of Alice his wife to half a fee in Chalfont St. Giles was acknowledged by Philip de Duredent in 1280. (fn. 52) The Vache family had by 1271 obtained Vache Manor in Aston Clinton (fn. 53) (q.v.), with which their Chalfont St. Giles manor was held for the next 130 years. Free warren was granted in 1303 to Sir Richard de la Vache, and his grandson Sir Richard received a grant of free warren in Chalfont in 1363 and died in 1366, when Philip his son entered into possession. In 1399 and 1404 Philip de la Vache and Elizabeth his wife settled the manor on themselves for life, and on Philip's death in 1407?8 it was retained by the trustees, whereas Vache Manor in Aston Clinton passed to Blanche his daughter and heir, wife of Richard Grey de Wilton. Vache Manor in Chalfont St. Giles was conveyed by the trustees in 1411 to William Whaplode.
    Birth date from The World of Chaucer - Page 169, Derek Brewer. 2000.
  • _UID: 78B2A0A0E072443CB19F6ED7AC10BE61AC5D
  • Change Date: 18 DEC 2012

    Father: Richard de la Vache

    Marriage 1 Elizabeth Clifford b: ABT 1361 in Princes Risborough, Buckinghamshire
    • Married: 1390 in Chudleigh, Devon 5
    1. Has Children Blanche Vache

    1. Type: Web Site
      Title: IGI (Aft Oct 2002)
      Author: LDS
    2. Type: Web Site
      Title: Genuki
    3. Type: Book
      Date: 1927
      Title: The Parish of Shenley, from The Victoria History Of Buckinghamshire
    4. Type: Book
      Periodical: Victoria County History of Buckinghamshire
    5. Type: Web Site
      Title: LDS Ancestral file
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