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  • ID: I17752
  • Name: Alice Darcy
  • Sex: F
  • Note: 1 2

    That Lady Colville was the daughter of "Johan Sire Darcy" is
    attested by an early 15th-century pedigree in French, set forth at
    YAJ 16:212. There seems no reason to doubt it. This would have
    been the 2d Lord Darcy, who was aged over 30 in 1347 (CP 4:59),
    not his grandson the 4th lord. The chronology is fine.

    I have seen no evidence as to whether Alice's mother was Alianore de Holand, first wife of Lord Darcy, or Elizabeth Meinill, second wife, both of illustrious ancestry. Chronology strongly indicates
    the second: Alianore died by 1341, and Lord Darcy married Elizabeth in 1345. CP 4:59-60. Thus if Alice was Alianore's daughter she would have been at least ten years older than her husband.
    ---
    As John and Alice de Colville were granted Thimbleby in 1375, presumably on their
    marriage, the chronology supports that Alice is daughter of John Lord Darcy and
    Elizabeth Meinell, daughter of Sir Nicholas Meinell and Alice de Ros. Elizabeth was
    14 when she married Darcy. (Darcy's first wife, Alianore de Holand died without
    issue. [CP IV p.59]). This would give the parameters of Alice Darcy's birth 1345-
    1356. Her brothers, John and Philip, were born 1350 and 1352.
  • _UID: 2C7B6E30F31A40E997E8C8C1433398CF60C5
  • Change Date: 19 DEC 2005



    Father: John Darcy
    Mother: Elizabeth Meynell b: 15 OCT 1331 in Whorlton, Cleveland, Yorkshire

    Marriage 1 John Colville
    • Married:
    Children
    1. Has Children Joan Colville
    2. Has Children Robert Colville

    Sources:
    1. Text: Brice Clagett
      < bclagett@cov.com >
      on GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
    2. Text: Rosie Bevan
      <cbevan@xtra.co.nz>
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