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  • ID: I22356
  • Name: Margaret de Gatesden
  • Sex: F
  • Death: 1310 in Trotton, Sussex 1
  • MEM: Trotton, Sussex: The earliest brass in England to commemorate a woman.
  • Note: 1 2 1 2 3

    Heir of her father.
    Brought estates of Trotton and Woolbeding to her husband.Also the estates of Southampton Water and Lasham, Hants.
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    Was sold by her husband John Camoys to her lover William Paynel, Kt., for 430, with John?s life interest in his wife?s estates.
    R Chatterton-Newman would appear to think that John de Gatesden who married Hawise Neville was Margaret?s grandfather not father, and that Hawise was her step-grandmother.
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    Married Sir William Paynel, 1st Lord Paynel, who dsp 1 April 1317.
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    Some sources believe that the brass in Trotton to be another wife of John Camoys, or his daughter in law Margaret de Braose.
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  • Change Date: 12 SEP 2007



    Father: John de Gatesden b: 1218 in Wollavington Manor, Sussex
    Mother: Hawise de Courtenay

    Marriage 1 John De Camoys
    • Married: 1279 1
    Children
    1. Has Children Ralph De Camoys

    Marriage 2 William Paynel
    • Married: 1299
    • Note: 28 Edw I

    Sources:
    1. Type: Book
      Periodical: Midhurst Fact and Fable
      Author: Frances Johnson-Davies
      Publication: Frances Johnson-Davies
      Date: 2002
    2. Type: Book
      Periodical: The Camoys of Trotton
      Author: Roger Chatterton-Newman
      Publication: Rogate Society
      Date: 1997
    3. Type: Web Site
      Title: Stirnet Genealogy
      Author: Patrick Barns-Graham
      URL: www.stirnet.com
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