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  • ID: I340
  • Name: John Hay
  • Suffix: of Seafield 1
  • Sex: M
  • Death: BEF 1675 2
  • Residence: Seafield, Slaines, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
  • Note: 3 1 4 1 3 5 1 1 6

    Hay (Seafield, Scotland; a scion of Hay of Futhie). Ar. a chev. betw. three escutcheons gu.
    (Encyclopaedia of heraldry: or General armory of England, Scotland, and ...)
    Can?t find any other reference to Hay of Futhie?
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    SEE: The Manor of Kininmonth. Transactions of the Buchan Field Club??. 1898. Page 150.
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    On 13th October, 1709, John Hay, Merchant in Edinburgh, had an arent on the lands of Seafield, and the daughter of John Hay of Seafield, as has been already seen, married Gavin Cumming of Kininmonth in 1662.
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    Gilbert Hay was ?of Seafield? in 1672.
    In 1696 Seafield was reckoned as part of the Erroll estate of Slains, and Robert Forbes was the tenant.
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    JOHN HAY OF SEAFIELD.
    On 5 Oct 1653, John Hay, Burgess of Aberdeen was served ?heir of conquest? to George Hay, his immediate younger brother, ?in Earlseat and Wester Auquharnie in Slains.? John Hay?s daughter married Gavin Cumming in 1662, and in 1682 Gavin had sasine of the lands of Kininmonth from the Earl of Erroll.
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    John Hay of Auch Wharney, Mr Alexander Keith at Sand and James Gordon of Affluchrees all in the parish of Cruden & Provost Muirison of Aberdeen.
    (A List of Persons Concerned in the Rebellion: Transmitted to the ...? 1890. Page 305.)
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    Could that fact that his son in law Gavin Cumine acquired Kininmonth in 1682 from the Hays of Delgaty suggest that this John Hay was related to that family?
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    On 30th April, 1656, George Hay of Kininmonth had a fresh sasine on the lands and barony of Delgaty.
    In 1673 Dr David Hay, MD, granted a sasine [of Delgaty, I assume] to George Hay of Kininmonth.
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    The George Hay who in 1652 was served heir to his father, James Hay of Kininmonth, in the lands and barony of Delgaty and had sasine thereon in 1657, ...
    ...James of Kininmonth being the same as James Hay of Muirefold (younger brother of Sir William) who was given possession of the forfeited estates in 1644.
    [p286]
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    For some years it seemed as if Delgaty would assume new beauty and fertility at his hands, while Kininmonth was placed in the care of James Hay, his [Sir William d1650?s] younger brother...
    (Transactions of the Buchan Field Club?. 1898. Page 150.)
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    George Hay of Kininmonth was nephew of Sir WIlliam Hay of Delgaty who was executed in 1650. He attended the re-burial of Sir William in 1661.
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    John Hay, brother of Gilbert Hay, of Seafield, was on 14 September, 1674, was disponed the lands of Murie by Patrick Ogilvy, of Murie.
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    A George Hay, of Seafield, with John Murray of Newraw, disponed the lands of Newraw to John Graham, of Balgowan, on 26 August, 1586.
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    Arms of Hay of Seafield: Argent, a chevron between three escutcheons Gules.
    So who were they granted to, and when?
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    His son in law?s grandfather, Alexander Cumming of Brunthill, was Chamberlain to the Earl of Erroll, so that is another Hay connection.
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    This is from Charles II time (1660-85): Warrant for a charter to John Hay, son of John Hay, of Seafield, deceased, and Elizabeth Ramsay, sister to the deceased Francis Ramsay, of Murie,...
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    At the 1661 re-burial of Montrose and Sir William Hay of Delgaty, (both executed in 1650):
    The corpse of Sir William Hay of Delgity followed in this order:
    Captain George Hay, son to Sir John Hay, late clerk-register, carried the standard of honour.
    William Ferguson of Badyfarrow, the Gumpheon.
    Mr. John Hay, the Pinsel of honour.
    Alexander Hay, the spurs and sword of honour.
    Mr. Henry Hay, the croslet.
    Mr. Andrew Hay, the gauntlets.
    Next followed his four branches:
    Hay, house of Errol, carried by Alexander Hay.
    Lesly, house of Balquhine, by George Lesly of Chapleton.
    Forbes, of the house of Forbes, by Forbes of Lesly.
    Hay of Delgity, by Robert Hay of Park.
    Two close Trumpets in mourning.
    Then the corpse garnished with escutcheons and epitaphs, at* tended by the Earl of Arrol, lord high constable of Scotland, the Earls of Buchan, Tweedale, Dumfrees, Kinghorn, the Viscount of Frendraught, the Lords Ray, Fraser, Foster, Mr. Robert Hay of Dronlaw, George Hay of Kinninmouth*, with a multitude of the name of Hay, and other relations.
    [The Taylors add ?his nephew?.]
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    The George Hay who in 1652 was served heir to his father, James Hay of Kininmonth, in the lands and barony of Delgaty and had sasine thereon in 1657, was the nephew who attended the funeral in 1661, James of Kininmonth being the same as James of Muiriefold (younger brother of Sir William) who was given possession of the fofeited estates in 1644.
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    In 1638 William Hay, afterwards earl of Erroll, was retoured in the lands of Templeton, and others.On 28th September, 1652, George Hay, heir of James Hay of Kininmonth, was retoured in the Templeton and other lands.
    (Angus or Forfarshire, the land and its people, descriptive and historical?, by Alexander Johnston Warden 1881. Page 394.)
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    William Hay of Delgatie was served heir to his father Alexander Hay, Knight in the lands of Delgatie.
    (The Manor of Kininmonth, Transactions of the Buchan Field Club?. 1898. Page 150.)
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    John Hay of Seafield, who d. prior to September of 1674 and was father of,
    3c} Gilbert Hay of Seafield, retoured heir to his father on 29 January, 1676.
    3c} Sir John Hay of Murie, obtained the lands of Murie from Patrick Ogilvy of Murie, in which he was
    infeft on 14 September, 1674, and is then styled as son of the deceased John Hay of Seafield, and
    brother to Gilbert Hay of Seafield. He m. to Elizabeth, daughter and coheiress of Sir David Nevay of
    that Ilk, d. in January of 1703 and was father of,
    3d} Sir John Hay of Murie, c. at Dundee on Thursday 7 June, 1683, and was retoured heir to his
    father in the lands of Murie, Mains of Errol and Seaside on 20 April, 1705. He sold his estate
    to George Yeaman, Provost of Dundee, who was infeft therein on 14 September, 1709.
    3d} David Hay, c. at Errol on 23 May, 1687.
    3d} George Hay, c. at Errol on 26 October, 1688.
    3d} Margaret Hay, c. at Errol on 17 May, 1684.
    3d} Elizabeth Hay, c. at Errol on 29 March, 1686.
    3d} Isobel Hay, c. at Errol on 27 March, 1689.
  • _UID: 69C9683944FD4D1A93DE5AA6BC42FACFB364
  • Change Date: 4 NOV 2011



    Father: George Hay

    Marriage 1 Spouse of John Hay
    • Married:
    Children
    1. Has Children Katherine Hay

    Sources:
    1. Type: Book
      Periodical: Aberdeenshire Valuation Roll 1667
      Publication: Spalding Club
      Date: 1933
    2. Text: The Red Book of Perthshire
      by Gordon A. MacGregor
      on http://www.perthshireheritage.co.uk/Aberuchill.html
      Page: www.gordonamacgregor.com/Hay%20of%20Errol.pdf
    3. Type: Book
      Periodical: The Manor of Kininmonth. Transactions of the Buchan Field Club?
      Date: 1898
    4. Type: Book
      Periodical: The Jacobite Cess Roll of Aberdeenshire 1715
      Publication: Spalding Club
      Date: 1932
    5. Type: Book
      Periodical: A System of Heraldry
      Author: Alexander Nisbet
      Date: 1722
      URL: http://www.heraldry-scotland.co.uk
    6. Text: The Red Book of Perthshire
      by Gordon A. MacGregor
      on http://www.perthshireheritage.co.uk/Aberuchill.html
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