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  • ID: I51299
  • Name: Ludwig "mit dem Barte" in Thuringia
  • Prefix: Count
  • Sex: M
  • Death: 13 JAN 1080
  • Burial: Mainz St Alban
  • Note: 1 1

    Son of the sister of Hamzo, Canon in Halberstadt.
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    An account of the Landgraves of Thuringia. As a prelude to an account of the House of Wettin, an account of this family is necessary, since Thuringia served as the base of the Wettins' later prosperity.
    Thuringia was originally a small area between Saxony and Franconia with the large Thuringian
    forest along its southern border. There had originally been a distinct Thuringian people, but the
    territory had been amalgamated and assimiliated with Saxony. At the end of the 11th century
    Ludwig with the beard began accumulating various fiefs in the province, and his grandson was
    named Landgrave of Thuringia. The death of Heinrich Raspe set up a conflict between his
    nephews the Duke of Brabant and the [Wettin] Margrave of Meissen, the latter eventually gaining
    Thuringia, while the former received Hesse and adopted the old title of Landgrave.
    Ludwig "mit dem Barte", or "with the beard", was Ct in Thuringia and d.ca 1080.
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    LUDWIG "Cum-barba" (-[1080], bur Mainz St Alban). The Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis names "Hugonem comitem et Ludwicum dictum Cum-barba fratrem suum" as "duos consanguineos" of Gisela, wife of Emperor Konrad II, specifying that they were "ex Francia oriundi Cis Renum de?stirpe regum Francorum Karoli et Ludewici"[74]. The precise nature of this relationship, assuming the Cronica is accurate in its statement, is not known. Jean-NoŽl Mathieu suggests that the relationship was through the family of the kings of Burgundy, descended from Willa, wife of King Rudolf I, although he does not propose a precise connection[75]. There appear to be too many unknown factors in positing the Carolingian ancestry of the Burgundian kings to be able to consider that such a possibility is more than highly speculative. Graf in Thuringia.
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  • Change Date: 19 SEP 2007



    Marriage 1 Caecilie von Sangerhausen
    • Married:
    Children
    1. Has Children Ludwig "der Salier" in Thuringia
    2. Has Children Hildegard van Thuringen
    3. Has Children Uta von Thueringen

    Sources:
    1. Text: Medieval Lands
      Charles Cawley
      http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/Contents.htm
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