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  • ID: I71000
  • Name: Raphe Kayell
  • Sex: M
  • Note:

    In Thomas Chiverton's book of obits (see "Devon and Cornwall Notes and Queries", vol XXXIV p 236) it is stated that Denyse daughter of "lord William Basset" was the first wife of a Ralph Kayell and that she died in 1349. It also says that this Ralph's second wife was a Matilda daughter of Robert Stonard, although this Matilda's date of death is not stated. The "History of the House of Commons (1381-1422)", sub Kayle says that Ralph was living in 1379 but was dead by 1385 (his namesake son by his second marriage became an MP).
    Is this Ralph the same man as Ralph the father of Margerie, and if so, which one of his wives was the mother of Margerie?
    Vivian also has another pedigree (page 113, sub Courtenay of Penkivel) in which three successive Ralph Kayells are shown, the first being the husband of Matilda who here is called Maud, daughter and ?heir of Robert "Stonnor". There is no mention therein of any prior wife to this Ralph, but he and Maud are shown as having several children, including a Margerie who is shown as dying without issue and nothing is said about any husband to her. The pedigree in question appears to be showing that the Deviock family of St Germans, descendants on the female line of Ralph and Maud's daughter Joan, were the ultimate heirs of Ralph and Maud. It seems to me that this could hardly be the case if Margerie the wife of Albalanda was also a child of this marriage.
    Did Ralph therefore have two daughters named Margerie? If so, does the above information point to Osbert Albalanda's wife being the daughter of Denise Basset instead?
    ( on soc.genealogy.medieval )
  • _UID: 23224FDA04AD43498A0299EE8B629CEE3572
  • Change Date: 3 MAR 2011

    Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown
      1. Has Children Marjorie Kayell
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