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  • ID: I1281
  • Name: Elizabeth (Joan) FitzRoy
  • Prefix: Princess
  • Given Name: Elizabeth (Joan)
  • Surname: FitzRoy
  • Suffix: (natural daughter)
  • Sex: F
  • _UID: 67C80FD1CFAD440DBCECCC06F6D76CF5843B
  • Change Date: 6 MAR 2016
  • _COLOR: 1
  • Note:
    Name: Elizabeth of Gloucester
    Surname: of Gloucester
    Given Name: Elizabeth
    Sex: F
    Birth: 1084/1095 in Gloucestershire, England
    _UID: 225099327F06914C8DFAD9892D2B072A11B2
    Note: Elizabeth, natural daughter of Henry I, and sister of Sibilla, who married Alexander I, brother of David."
    [Ref: Sir Herbert Maxwell, "A History of Dumfries and Galloway" by Sir Herbert Maxwell, Edinburgh, 1896, pp. 47-48]1 2 3

    Father: Henry I Beauclerc King of England b: ABT Sep 1068 in Selby, Yorkshire, England

    Marriage 1 Fergus De Galloway Lord Galloway
    Married: 1124 in Carrick, Ayrshire, Scotland 4
    Children
    Uchtred De Galloway Lord Galloway b: ABT 1100 in Galloway, Wigton, Scotland
    Affrica de Galloway Brenines Ynys Manaw
    Bethoc MacFergus b: ABT 1124 in Row Castle, Galloway, Bedrule Parish, Scotland
    Gilbert De Galloway
    Sources:
    Title: Scots Peerage
    Author: Sir James Balfour Paul
    Publication: Edinburgh, 1909-1919
    Page: IV:136
    Text: Gives some indication that Fergus married a relative of the English royalhouse, but is quite cautious about her actual relationship to Henry I (or William II).
    Title: The Royal Bastards of Medieval England
    Author: Chris Given-Wilson & Alice Curteis
    Publication: 1984, republished by Barnes & Noble in 1995
    Text: unnamed daughter who m Fergus of galloway, possible issue of Henry I, no mother
    Title: Britain's Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy
    Author: Alison Weir
    Publication: rev. ed, Pimlico Random House, London 1989, 1996
    Page: p 49
    Text: Joan or Elizabeth
    Title: Britain's Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy
    Author: Alison Weir
    Publication: rev. ed, Pimlico Random House, London 1989, 1996
    Page: p 49
    Text: no date, had issue
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    "The Complete Peerage," vol. 14 [1999], p. 582 which added to Appendix D , vol. 11 [1949], the following change: "...add "Another daughter, Elizabeth, said to be Henry's youngest illegitimate child, is mentioned in Scots Peerage (vol. iv, p. 136), and there said to have married Fergus, Lord of Galloway.
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    The claimed marriage of Fergus of Galloway to an illegitimate daughter of Henry I of England has been discussed here on numerous occasions before. To give a brief (but vastly oversimplified) synopsis of what has been discussed before, there are a couple of independent (and evidently reliable) sources which refer to certain members of Fergus's family as relatives of certain English kings, and the most probable explanation of this relationship would appear to be the marriage of Fergus to an otherwise unknown illegitimate daughter of Henry I, although there are other less likely possibilities (such as Fergus's wife being a member of the Scottish royal family) that can't actually be ruled out based on the evidence that has been presented in these discussions so far. However, in a ddition the the problem of interpreting the evidence mentioned above, there is one additional loose end for which I do not recall the evidence ever having been discussed, i.e., the name of the wife of Fergus. Her name is consistently given as Elizabeth in the secondary sources (if they provide a name at all), but I do not recall her name being mentioned in any of the primary sources mentioned in these discussions. -- Stewart Baldwin, GEN-MEDIEVAL, 15 Jun 2003
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    The name of Fergus' wife is unknown. She was almost certainly not the daughter of King Henry I. I personally favor the theory that she was a member of the Scottish royal family, not the English royal family. As I recall, Fergus and/or his sons had some sort of an alliance with William Fitz Duncan, grandson of Malcolm Canmore, King of Scotland. My guess is that Fergus' wife was a close connection of William Fitz Duncan. This would give Fergus' descendants a near kinship to the Kings of England, just as the records allege. -- Stewart Baldwin, GEN-MEDIEVAL, 15 Jun 2003
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    Sources:
    Gary B. Roberts 'Ancestors of American Presidents' p 159

    Ancestral Roots of Certain Americian Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 2002, Line 38-24; SP III 245, IV 135-138
  • Birth: CA 1095 in Talby, Yorkshire, England
  • Death: 19 MAY 1166 in Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
  • Title: Princess of England



    Father: Henry I of England b: SEP 1068 in Selby, Yorkshire, England
    Mother: mother of Sibyl and William FitzHenry

    Marriage 1 Fergus of Galloway b: ABT 1096 in Galloway, Wigtownshire, Scotland
    • Married: 1124 in Carrick, Argyllshire, Scotland
    Children
    1. Has Children Affrica of Galloway b: 1120 in Wigtown, Galloway, Scotland
    2. Has Children Bethoc of Galloway b: 1124 in Rowcastle, Galloway, Bedrule Parish, Roxburghshire, Scotland
    3. Has Children Uchtred of Galloway b: CA 1125 in Galloway, Wigtownshire, Scotland
    4. Has No Children Margaret of Galloway b: ABT 1130
    5. Has Children Gilbert of Galloway b: ABT 1140
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