Mostly Jefferson County, TN . . . many EDMONDS, many islands . . . mostly prior to 1900

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  • ID: I0054
  • Name: John (possible son? m:Fanny?") EDMONDS
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 1780 in NOT PROVEN son of George and Nelley <"fillis">. See BIG NOTES under Fanny
  • Death: BEF 1830 in maybe not 1827. (Sorry, NOT EVEN proven father of any of these kids)
  • Note:
    Check Edmonds, Edmunds, Edmands, Edmends, Edmond, Edmund, Edmand, Edmend, Edmons, Edmens, Edmuns, Edmans, Edmon, Edmun, Edman, Edwards, Edward.
    I've seen these guys under almost all of them.

    SEE EXTENSIVE NOTES ON THE PAGE FOR HIS ALLEGED WIFE, FANNY .


    NOTE: In tax rolls book in Jefferson County, TN
    John Edwards (remember that Fanny Edmonds is seen as Fanny Edwards!!!!! MAYBE THEY'RE ALL EDWARDS!
    1825 (Capt Rankin's precinct)
    1826 (Capt. Smith)
    1828 (Capt Summit)
    All these are located south of the river where Fanny "Edwards" got a land grant in 1833.


    I don't know where else to put this --
    Feb 26, 1802
    Unlisted items sold to William Edmonds. (No, we don't know which William Edmonds)
    An account of sale of personal estate of Thomas Jarnigin dec'd.
    This is the earliest I can find an Edmonds in Jefferson County, Tennessee.


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    NO PROOF THIS IS OUR GUY. PUTTING HERE FOR INFORMATION ONLY. COULD BE A DIFFERENT JOHN EDMONDS. DO NOT USE THIS AS PROOF OF ANYTHING.


    I'm listing his birthday half-way between two other orphans found in Augusta County at the same time. One of them ON THE SAME SHEET OF PAPER. It's unlikely that John was born in 1770 because it doesn't seem logical to have him under an apprenticeship to a cooper if he was only going to be there one year before he turned 21. IF the orphans are really even these people. WE DON'T KNOW.


    http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/Virginia_Law.html

    18th Century Virginia Law regarding poor orphans

    . . . A child whose father had died was an orphan
    in that era, even if her mother was living. The father in his will
    could name a guardian or guardians for his infant children (infant was
    the legal term for under age) to manage their estates and arrange for
    their education. If he did not do so or if he died intestate, the court
    could name the guardian unless the child was 14 or older, in which case
    he or she could choose one. However, " where the estate of the
    orphan be so small value that no person will educate and maintain him
    for the profits thereof, such orphan shall be bound apprentice, every
    male to some tradesman, merchant, mariner, or other person approved by
    the court until the age of 21." Females were similarly bound
    but to age 18. The master or mistress of every servant was to provide
    "diet, clothes, lodgings and accommodations and teach him to read
    and write and at the expiration of his apprenticeship to give him the
    same allowance appointed for servants of indenture". . .


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    NO PROOF THIS IS OUR GUY. PUTTING HERE FOR INFORMATION ONLY. COULD BE A DIFFERENT JOHN EDMONDS. DO NOT USE THIS AS PROOF OF ANYTHING.



    From Augusta County Courthouse. See intro under George Edmonds, his assumed older brother, who is on the left half of the paper. George appears two years later on the left half of the paper with William. Then, both birthdates are given. George is older there so I'm hoping the standard procedure for the Overseers of the Poor was to put the oldest one first. NO, THERE IS NO PROOF THIS IS THE JOHN EDMONDS WHO ALLEGEDLY MARRIED FANNY .

    (page 100))
    This Indenture
    Made the second day of October in the year of our Lord one Thousand seven hundred & Ninety Witnesseth that We Thomas Fraim & William Young & William Finley Overseers for the poor in Augusta County do by an Order of Court to us directed Bind John Edmunds an Orphan boy as an apprentice Unto John Craig to learn the art Trade and Mystery of a Cooper and With him to dwell and Continue and serve from the date of these presents until the said John Edmunds shall attain to the age of Twenty one years during Which Time said Apprentice shall faithfully serve said Master-- his secrets keep and all his lawfull commands Every Where gladly obey hurt to his said master he shall not do-- (If you are reading this paragraph and there is no credit of the source and person who transcribed it and the date and location and no disclaimer on the page stating that we do not, repeat not, know that the John apprenticed is actually the son of George and Ellender then someone is a copy cat who doesn't do good research and you'd better not copy anything from them. They will mess up your tree.) nor suffer it to be done by others Without giving Timely Notice thereof to said master his goods he shall not waste, nor imbazzle, nor lend them Unlawfully to any --at Cards, dice, or any other unlawfull game he shall not play Taverns or Tipling houses he shall not frequent, fornication he shall not commit, Matrimony he shall not contract within the Term of his Apprenticeship he also shall not absent himself from said Masters Business Without his leave but shall in all things behave himself as a faithfull apprentice ought to do during his Term of service to said Master and said master shall teach or cause to be taught his said apprentice the Art, Trade or Mistery of a cooper and shall also teach or cause to be taught his said apprentice to Read and Write a legible hand and Cypher through the Rule of three and shall also find and furnish and supply said Apprentice with sufficient Meat, drink, washing, lodging apparrel fitting for said apprentice during the term of his apprenticeship and shall pay him freedom dues according to Law to the True performace of the above Indenture the parties contracting have Inter Changeably set their hands and Seals the day and year above written.

    John Craig (the cooper signed on left)

    The Three men who are Overseers for the Poor signed on the right:
    Thomas Fraim (seal)
    William Young (seal)
    William Finley (seal)
    [transcribed by SSBosco 2006
    Augusta County Courthouse
    Staunton, Augusta Co VA]


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    I HAVE NO IDEA if this is our John Edmonds in the last sentence.
    Just putting here for future reference. Augusta County, VA is where a (not proven which) George Edmonds died. Then Nelley supposedly took the kids and moved to Buncombe Co., NC (Asheville area)
    from: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/va/augusta/court/2court46.txt
    Insolvents and Delinquents, 1797: George Givens, removed to Kentucky; Abraham Hannah, to Kentucky; Peter Peck, to Kanorway; Christian Shurley, to Kentucky; John Edmonds, to western territory. (Repeat, we do not know which John Edmonds this is.)

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    NO PROOF THIS IS OUR GUY. PUTTING HERE FOR INFORMATION ONLY. COULD BE A DIFFERENT JOHN EDMONDS. DO NOT USE THIS AS PROOF OF ANYTHING.

    SEE EXTENSIVE NOTES ON THE PAGE FOR HIS ALLEGED WIFE, FANNY .







    Father: George (m:Nelly) NOT PROVEN FATHER EDMONDS b: in Not born in 1770 in London and didn't die at age 12. None of his kids were born in England, especially in 1790. ** SEE NOTES ** ONLY ANN is proven child of this couple.
    Mother: ELLENDER Nelly NOT PROVEN MOTHER possibly FILLIS b: BEF 1755 in Not England. Ann is the only documented child of this couple. Might not evem be Fillis! ** SEE NOTES **

    Marriage 1 Fanny maybe not PRATT b: BEF 1790 in NOT PROVEN wife of John. NOT PROVEN mother of all those kids. See notes for censuses and lost children and OTHER people in Jefferson who might be parents of all those kids. SEE NOTE FOR MONKEY WRENC
    • Married: AFT 1800 in Possibly somewhere between Buncombe Co, NC and Jefferson, Tennessee
    Children
    1. Has No Children daughter "a" EDMONDS b: BET 1800 AND 1809
    2. Has No Children multiple males SEE NOTES not proven EDMONDS b: BET 1803 AND 1827 in See notes for list of the males
    3. Has No Children daughter "b" EDMONDS b: BET 1810 AND 1814
    4. Has No Children daughter "c" EDMONDS b: BET 1830 AND 1834
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