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  • ID: I42824
  • Name: ROBERT II (NOTES) LE BRUS DE BRUS (L) DE BRUSE
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: BET 1000 AND 1055 in CARRICK, SCOTLAND, BRUIS CASTLE, BRIX, MANCHE, NORMANDY, FRANCE OR NORTHHAMPTONSHIRE, ENGLAND
  • ALIA: ROBERT (NOTE) LE OR DE BUCI LE BRUCE (L) DE BRUS
  • Title: SIR, LORD OF CLEVELAND
  • Event: 1 AKA ROBERT II (NOTES) LE BRUS DE BRUS (L) DE BRUSSE
  • Event: 2 AKA ROBERT (NOTES) (L) DE BRUSSE
  • Event: 3 AKA ROBERT I (NOTES) DE BRUIS LORD OF (L) CLEVELAND
  • Event: 4 AKA ROBERT (NOTES) DE BUCI LE BRUS (L) DE BRUIS
  • Event: 5 AKA ROBERT (NOTES) DE BRUS
  • Event: 6 AKA ROBERT (NOTES) DE BUCI
  • Event: 7 AKA ROBERT WILLIAM (NOTES) (L) DE BRUSEE
  • Event: 8 AKA ROBERT II (NOTES) (L) LE BRUS
  • Event: 9 AKA LORD OF CLEVELAND SIR ROBERT (NOTES) (L) DE BRUIS
  • Event: 10 AKA SIR ROBERT I (NOTES) BRUSI OR (L) DE BRUS
  • Death: BET 1066 AND 1098 in ANNAN, DUMFRIES OR CLEVELAND, DURHAM, ENGLAND
  • Note:
    IiNFORMATION RECEIVED FROM EUGENE W. HIBBARD DOES NOT RECOGNIZE THE THREE ROBERTS I SHOW HERE AS ADAM ADELM I (PH) (NOTES) BRUS (L) DE BRUIS'S FATHER AND GRANDFATHER.

    EUGENE BELEIVES THIS LINE IS UNKNOWN FURTHER BACK THAN ADAM ADELM I (PH)(NOTES) BRUS (L) DE BRUIS .WHOM I SHOW AS THE GRANDSON OF THIS ROBERT I.

    EVEN THOUGH MANY OTHER SOURCES SHOW THIS ANCESTRAL LINE AS I SHOW IT HERE, I HAVE NO PROOF THESE THREE ROBERTS, EXISTED OR THAT THEY REALLY WERE ADAM'S ANCESTORS BUT HAVE I HAVE LEFT THEM IN, PROPERLY NOTED, IN THE HOPE THEY ARE.

    ASSUMING THESE THREE (OR SOME SOURCES SAY JUST ONE) ROBERTS EXISTED, VAROUS POSSIBLE ANCESTRY IS SHOWN FOR THEM. THE SAME ANCESTRY SHOWN BELOW FOR ROBERT II IS ALSO SHOWN FOR HIS FATHER ROBERT BY SOME SOURCES.

    SOME SOURCES SAY ROBERT II 'S PARENTS WERE ROBERT I (NOTES) BRUSI OR (L) DE BRUCE AND AGNES (L) ST. CLAIR.

    OTHER SOURCES SAY HIS (OR HIS FATHER'S?) PARENTS WERE BRUSI OR BURSEE (NOTES) (L) SIGURDSSON AND OSTRIDA (NOTES) (L) RAGNAVALDSDATTER.

    STILL OTHER SOURCES SAY ROBERT II (NOTES) LE BRUS DE BRUS (L) DE BRUSE OR HIS FATHER ROBERT I (NOTES) BRUSI OR (L) DE BRUCE'S, PARENTS WERE RAGNVALD ROGENVALD II (NOTES) (L) BRUSESSON AND ONE OF HIS TWO WIVES ARLOGIA ARLOGIS (NOTES) DE ORKNEY OF (L) RUSSIA OR FELICIA (NOTES) (L) DE NORMANDIE.

    AND STILL OTHER SOURCES SAY LANCELIN I (NOTES) DE FLECHE & (L) DE BEAUGENCY AND PAULE OR PAULA OR HABERGE (NOTES) (L) DU MAINE WERE THE PARENTS OF ROBERT II (NOTES) LE BRUS DE BRUS (L) DE BRUSE BUT THEY ARE NOT SHOWN SO HERE BECAUSE SHOWING MORE THAN ONE SET OF PARENTS COULD CAUSE MY "FAMILY TREE" PROGRAM TO MALFUNCTION.

    AS I SAY ABOVE, THE THREE ROBERT DE BRUCE'S I SHOW HERE, THIS ONE, ROBERT II (NOTES) LE BRUS DE BRUS (L) DE BRUSE, HIS SON ROBERT II (NOTES) DE BRUIS LORD OF (L) CLEVELAND AND HIS FATHER ROBERT I (NOTE) BRUSI OR (L) DE BRUCE AND HIS SON MAY HAVE BEEN JUST ONE PERSON OR MAY EVEN NOT HAVE EXISTED AT ALL.

    SO, SOME SOURCES SAY ROBERT WAS THE FATHER OF ROBERT I (PH) (NOTES) DE BRUS (L) DE BRUCE (SHOWN AS HIS GRANDSON HERE) BUT HE IS NOT SHOWN SO HERE BECAUSE SHOWING MORE THAN ONE SET OF PARENTS COULD CAUSE MY "FAMILY TREE" PROGRAM TO MALFUNCTION.

    TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE CONFUSING, SOME SOURCES SHOW THE FATHER (OR GRANDFATHER) ROBERT I (NOTES) BRUSI OR (L) DE BRUCE AS THE HUSBAND OF AGNES (L) ST. CLAIR AND SOME SHOW THE GRANDSON (HERE) ROBERT II (NOTES) DE BRUIS LORD OF (L) CLEVELAND AS HER HUSBAND.

    IN OTHER WORDS, SOURCES DIFFER AS TO IF THE HUSBAND OF AGNES (L) ST. CLAIR (AND AGNES) WERE THE PARENTS OR THE CHILD AND DAUGHTER IN LAW, OF ROBERT II (NOTES) LE BRUS DE BRUS (L) DE BRUSE

    SO THERE SHOULD BE ONE, TWO OR THREE (AS I SHOW IT HERE) ROBERT BRUCE'S HERE.

    OTHER INFORMATION WAS ADDED FROM VARIOUS SOURCES INCLUDING THE FOLLOWING FROM

    http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=clcaldwell&id=I13085

    ROBERT DE BRUS,(+) a noble Knight of Normandy, came to England with the Conqueror; was at the Battle of Hastings; received ninety-four lordships in Yorkshire, of which the manor and castle of Skelton was the capital of his barony; died 1094 or 1100[Robert de Brus.ged]

    ROBERT DE BRUS,(+) a noble Knight of Normandy, came to England with the Conqueror; was at the Battle of Hastings; received ninety-four lordships in Yorkshire, of which the manor and castle of Skelton was the capital of his barony; died 1094 or 1100 [de brus.ged]

    ROBERT DE BRUS,(+) a noble Knight of Normandy, came to England with the Conqueror; was at the Battle of Hastings; received ninety-four lordships in Yorkshire, of which the manor and castle of Skelton was the capital of his barony; died 1094 or 1100 [Emma of Brittany.ged]

    ROBERT DE BRUS,(+) a noble Knight of Normandy, came to England with the Conqueror; was at the Battle of Hastings; received ninety-four lordships in Yorkshire, of which the manor and castle of Skelton was the capital of his barony; died 1094 or 1100

    Father: Rognvald Brusesson b: 1001 in Orkney, Orkney Islands, Scotland
    Mother: Felicia De Normandie b: ABT 1007 in Rouen, Seine-Inférieure, Normandy, France

    Marriage 1 Emma of Brittany b: ABT 1025 in Rennes, Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France

    * Married: in Carrick, Argyll, Scotland 1

    Children

    1. Has Children Adam De Bruis , Lord of Cleveland b: ABT 1041 in Bruis Castle, Brix, Manche, Normandy, France
    2. Has Children Roger De Pitres , Sheriff of Gloucester b: ABT 1043 in Pitres, Normandy France
    3. Has Children Sir William I De Braiose b: ABT 1045 in Briouze, Normandy, France
    4. Has Children Robert II De Bruis , Lord of Cleveland b: ABT 1051 in Bruis Castle, Brix, Manche, Normandy, France

    Sources:

    1. Title: Peter de Bruce.ged
    Repository:
    Media: Other
    Text: Date of Import: 12 Feb 2005
    2. Title: Robert de Brus.ged
    Repository:
    Media: Other
    Text: Date of Import: 12 Feb 2005
    3. Title: de brus.ged
    Repository:
    Media: Other
    Text: Date of Import: 12 Feb 2005
    4. Title: Emma of Brittany.ged
    Repository:
    Media: Other
    Text: Date of Import: 12 Feb 2005

    IN 2012, I RECEIVED AND ANSWERED EMAILS THAT PROVIDED MUCH MORE INFORMATION ON THIS BRUCE LINE. THE EMAILS AND INFORMATION LISTS ARE COPIED BELOW.

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    From: pusch@comcast.net
    To: "Alton Rogers"
    Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 3:44:23 AM
    Subject: Re: The Bruce Family

    Good Morning Alton,

    Thanks again for even more good genealogical information.

    As I said, I will post the Bruce information as notes on my RootsWeb page for ROBERT II (NOTES) LE BRUS DE BRUS (L) DE BRUSE and now I will also post this new information with your Norman Ancestors at Hastings posted as notes on my RootsWeb page for WILLIAM I (NOTES) (BCP) KING OF (L) ENGLAND and your Counselors to King John posted on my RootsWeb page for JOHN (NOTES) LACKLAND I KING OF (L) ENGLAND.

    Thanks again for your help on all this and all this well researched information.

    I hope to hear from you again one day and in the meantime, good luck with all your genealogical efforts.

    Bruce

    From: "Alton Rogers"
    To: pusch@comcast.net
    Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 5:48:27 PM
    Subject: Re: The Bruce Family

    Hi Bruce -

    Glad I could be of some help and that what I have is of interest. As you mentioned, trying to keep things straight so far back is a real challenge, especially with limited resources. But as you can see, I tried my best to utilize the most authoritative sources I could find without relying on what often is unreferenced Rootsweb pages (with unproven data) or other shaky on-line sources, with info coming from who-knows-where.

    And if there are family ancestries that you want to see from that long list of noble sur-names I previously provided, let me know. For your info, I have attached my file list of Battle of Hastings and Magna Carta/Counselors to King John-related ancestors - you probably have many of the same in yours. All files are in narrative format as was the last one. (and if I had already sent these lists at one time, please excuse my forgetfulness)

    Have a good New Year

    Alton

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    From: pusch@comcast.net
    To: "Alton Rogers"
    Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 6:01:57 AM
    Subject: The Bruce Family

    Hi again Alton,

    Thank you, this is great.

    You start at the top with the man I call ROBERT II (NOTES) LE BRUS DE BRUS (L) DE BRUSE and you call Sir Robert de Brus a Norman knight. I have him on my RootsWeb site at

    http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=pusch&id=I42824.

    He is my 25th great Grandfather.

    On my RootsWeb site, I continue tracing on back from Robert II, again all the way to Adam and Eve but, of course with no real proof from there on back.

    In fact the proof given me by another person who helped me with this Bruce line, Eugene Hubbard, stops at Robert's grandson Adam which is why at the top of every one of my RootsWeb pages, I say :"My names, Bruce, Cooley and Pusch, are also three family surnames. I'm searching for the ancestors of Adam or Adhelm Brus or De Bruis (you call him Adam (Adelm) de Brus, 1st Baron of Skelton, Lord of Cleveland in Yorkshire) born between 1020 and 1051, Benjamin Coley or Cooley born bet. 1615-1619 and John or Johann Pusch born abt 1841."

    We both descend from not only these two Bruce men but many of their ancestors and descendants through the various other lines all the way down to us so we are cousins many times over.

    We differ on how we name them however and often their wives names are the best way to tell them apart when comparing our two lists. We also differ slightly on the birth and death dates we use but there's no question were looking at the same lines. Your list runs 17 pages (16 the way I copied it with narrower margins) and if I click on "Decendancy" on Robert's page on the link I gave you above, I get 17 pages of descendants just coming down 10 generations to about 1300.

    I'm sure there are a lot of discrepancies between those two lists and with your use of better resources, I would have many months of correcting if we assume your entries are all correct. As I also have the disclaimer, "NAMES OF INDIVIDUALS WITH PROOF ARE MARKED (P). INFORMATION ON ALL OTHER NAMES IS SPECULATIVE" at the top of all my RootsWeb pages, I think I'll pass on trying to make all those corrections at least right now but if you see something you know is wrong, please let me know and I'll correct that.

    You'll find just comparing the two lists is difficult and often the wife's name is your best guide.

    Thanks again for all this Bruce information though and I will post it all to Robert's page and later, when I run out of other genealogy work, it will always be there for me to go back and start again in comparing the two lists and making corrections or additions.

    Bruce

    From: "Alton Rogers"
    To: pusch@comcast.net
    Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:25:12 PM
    Subject: Re: How many Josiah Winslow and Penelope Pelhams were there and where do they fit in?

    Hi Bruce -

    Glad I could help - anything else about this let me know.

    You had mentioned the Bruce line a few days ago. I have attached my More file 4A which details my Brus/Bruce ancestry thru Mayflower passenger Richard More down to me. And if there is anything that you want to see about lines associated with the Brus line, let me know. Hope this is of interest. All my files are in similar narrative detail.

    Alton

    1 May 2010
    file: More 4A

    OUR ANCESTRY FROM THE 'DE BRUS' (BRUCE) FAMILY -
    12TH CENTURY LORDS OF ANNANDALE IN SCOTLAND

    They were a feudal Anglo-Norman family that held a remarkable barony in the English border zone, as well as lands in northern England.

    This is the ancestral family of the legendary Scots hero 'Robert the Bruce'.
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    Line numbers in this file are from the 8th edition of the book "Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700".
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    MCA # s refer to pages from the Magna Carta Ancestry by Douglas Richardson.
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    Note: some data and citations for generations 1 - 4 courtesy of medieval genealogy expert Jim gen9@mail.com
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    Also some information is from the history of Skelton-in-Cleveland:
    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bandl.danby/
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    M4A-1

    1. Sir Robert de Brus a Norman knight
    Born before ca. 1040 in France - died ca. 1094 in Yorkshire.

    He was the first to be called Robert de Brus. It is probable that the place of origin of his family in France was at Brix, department Manche, arrondissement and cantonment of Valognes.

    Page 23 of the 1848 book 'The Roll of Battle Abbey" has this to say about this family:
    "The family of Brutz, Brus or Bruce assumed its name from the castle of La Brusce in Normandy, near Valognes which was built by Robert de Brutz, or Brusce, a councilor to Duke Robert. His youngest son, Robert de Brutz, or in English, Brus, together with William, his son, followed the standard of their kinsman, the Conqueror, into England, where Robert was said to have died, very shortly after the battle at Hastings'".

    He was a Norman knight, known as being of considerable rank and talents, who accompanied William the Conqueror at Hastings in 1066.

    About 1066, the Conqueror granted to him the manor of Worsall (or Worsall Parva), North Yorkshire.

    But, as he was known to have held lands in capite (and not as a sub-tenant) in Domesday 1086, he was undoubtedly given the lands directly by the king, so he was known to King William to some degree.

    Probably at some time after 1086, William I granted to Robert de Brus lands originally granted to Robert, Earl of Morton. And for his great services, Skelton Castle was granted to Robert de Brus along with 43 lordships in the East and West Ridings of Yorkshire and 51 lordships in the North Riding of Yorkshire. The manor and castle of Skelton was the capital of his barony.

    The manor of Skelton, as appears in the Domesday book of 1086, was held before the Conquest by the Saxon lord Uctred, but by the time of the survey of 1086, was held under Robert Earl of Moreton in Latin - "Terra Comitis Moritoniensis".

    At some time after 1086 the lands of Robert, Earl of Moreton appear to have been given by the Conqueror to Robert de Brus, to be held by the King "in capite" in whole "fee within the North Riding, which was granted after the Survey was made, consisted chiefly of lands within (those) following places".

    In 1086 his name is recorded as "Robertus de Bruis". In documents of the late 11th century, the name of Robert de Brus is stated as "Roberti de Brois".

    M4A-2

    The Domesday book tells us that Skelton was once under the lordship of Uctred who "had there one manor". Uctred was the lord of 12 nearby villages where the villagers were composed of slaves who had no freedom at all and the half-free. Uctred held the land from a higher lord or earl and had obligations to fight on his behalf and provide a certain number of armed men. Skelton was part of the 'wapentake' of Longbaurgh - the 'long hill'. Wapentake literally means the "mustering of weapons".

    The Brus/Bruce family continued as Lords of Skelton for many successions, making that Castle their baronial residence. The castle was demolished in 1788 and the present manor was built by John Hall Stephenson.
    Skelton Castle - past and Present: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/don.burluraux/skelton.htm

    Robert married Emma of Brittany, daughter of Alan III, Duke of Brittany (d.1040) by Berthe of Blois, daughter of Eudes I, Count of Blois and Chartres. Alan was the grandson of Richard I, Duke of Normandy.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_III,_Duke_of_Brittany

    They had the following children:
    1. Robert, died ca. 1094.
    2. Adam, died ca. 1080. (see # 2)
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    M4A-3

    2. Adam (Adelm) de Brus, 1st Baron of Skelton, Lord of Cleveland in Yorkshire
    He was born ____ and died ca 1080 in Yorkshire.

    Adam de Brus, birth unknown, went to England in 1050 as attendant to Queen Emma, daughter of Richard I of Normandy.

    Adelm (or Adam) de Brus is said to have been the second son of Robert de Brus, a Norman knight, and Emma, daughter of Allan, Earl of Brittany.

    Adelm is said to have come to England before his father, perhaps as a page to Queen Emma, daughter of Richard, Duke of Normandy, and the widow of King Ethelred II and King Canute. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_of_Normandy

    On William the Conqueror's invasion of England in 1066, at Hastings he joined the King, with whom his father Robert had also come.

    His services at Hastings were rewarded by The Conqueror with a grant of the barony of Skelton and lordship of Cleveland in Yorkshire.

    He is said to have married Emma, daughter of Sir William Ramsay, but of this there is some doubt.

    He had the following children:
    1. Robert I 'le Meschin' (or the Younger) (see # 3)
    2. William, who died ca 1155 in Gisbourne. He was the first prior (abbot) of Gisborough Priory. He died A.D. 1155, and was buried in the chapter house there.
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    M4A-4

    3. Robert de Brus I 'le Meschin' (or the Younger) Lord of Skelton in Yorkshire & Lord of Annandale in Scotland
    He was born ca. 1071/78 in Yorkshire and died 11 May 1141 in Skelton, Yorkshire.
    He was buried in Gisborough Priory which he founded in 1119.
    In the 16th century, excavations at the Priory uncovered a stone coffin behind the High Altar which was deemed to have been his burial place.
    de Brus tomb: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bandl.danby/Skelton1291_1301.html

    Gisborough Priory is in the town of Guisborough, now in the ceremonial county of North Yorkshire. The town of Guisborough was the ancient capital of the borough of Cleveland, now Redcar & Cleveland. Gisborough Priory was largely destroyed in the 16th century Dissolution of the Monasteries with its stones being used for building materials in the town of Guisborough. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gisborough_Priory

    The Charter of Gisborough Priory shows how the Norman held land only by virtue of fealty to the king:
    "I, Robert de Brus, and Agnes my wife, and Adam our son and heir, to the church of S Mary of Gyseburne, and to the brethern serving God there, in free, quiet and perpetual alms, with all the liberties, free customs and privileges which we possessed in them by the gift and grant of Henry, King of England".

    Ten churches in Yorkshire and Durham with their lands were presented to the priory which gave the prior (abbot) the right to collect the tithes. Robert's brother William was the first prior.

    Robert de Brus succeeded his father in the barony of Skelton. He became a very powerful baron, having no less than 94 lordships in Yorkshire, summed at 15 knights fees.

    He was lord of Cleveland and of Skelton and Danby in Cleveland, Yorkshire.

    Skelton-in-Cleveland is presently a small town in the borough of Redcar & Cleveland in North Yorkshire. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skelton,_North_Yorkshire

    He flourished under King Henry I of England and was close to Prince (later King) David I of Scotland. When David became King of Scotland as David I, Robert de Brus obtained the lordship of Annandale and other lands in the south of Scotland. He was head of the barony of Bruce and became the first baron of Annandale, now in Dumfries and Galloway.

    M4A-5
    He was a liberal benefactor to the church, and along with the Earl of Huntingdon (David Fitz Malcolm - afterward David I) founded the Abbey of Selkirk, afterwards removed to Kelso in Scotland.

    There is evidence he was given his Yorkshire lands soon after the Battle of Tinchebrai in France in 1106 when he had a grant of Skelton in Yorkshire by King Henry I and exchanged lands for Danby in Cleveland, Yorkshire.

    He witnessed charters in the early years of the 12th century, including one of King Henry I in 1109.

    Around 1113, David of Scotland forced King Alexander I of Scotland to hand over a large territory of land in southern Scotland to Robert de Brus.

    Robert had charters from David I, circa 1124, of the lands of Estrahanet or Annandale. When David became King of Scots in 1124, one of his first acts was to confirm Robert de Brus in his Annandale possessions which totaled about 200,0000 acres of land.

    In 1126, King Henry I demanded that the lords of the realm, including de Brus, swear an oath accepting his daughter Matilda as the future Queen of England.

    In 1135, on the death of Henry I, many Norman lords, including de Brus of Skelton, went back on their word to support Matilda believing the woman would be a weakness to the realm.

    He fought at the Battle of the Standard, near Northallerton in 1138, where he commanded a large part of the army of the English king, Stephen of Blois. At that battle, Scottish forces were defeated and de Brus took his own son, Robert, lord of Annandale, prisoner. In turn, after being returned to Scotland, the younger Robert abandoned his father's arms of a red lion on a silver field and assumed the now familiar red saltire.

    During the civil war called Anarchy (ca. 1139-47) between King Stephen and Empress Matilda, King David led a force of men into England to support Stephen. Robert could not support this, renounced his homage to David and resigned his holdings in Annandale to his second son Robert to join the English forces.

    M4A-6
    Robert de Brus is said to have married:
    Agnes, daughter and heiress of Foulk/Fulk de Pagnell (Paynel) Lord of Carleton, North Yorkshire, of Dudley, Worcester by Beatrice Fitz Ansculf. From that union Robert received the manor of Carleton in North Yorkshire and other lands. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carleton,_North_Yorkshire

    The Pagnell (sometimes spelled Paynell) family were from which the village of Hooten Pagnell in South Yorkshire derived its name. Ralph de Pagnel was a Norman who was tenant-in-chief in Yorkshire named in the 1086 Domesday Book who was an extensive land owner. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooton_Pagnell

    The children of Robert de Brus and Agnes de Pagnell:
    1. Adam I, died 1143 in Skelton, Yorkshire. His wife was Agnes of Aumale.
    Note: His son Adam II de Brus (1134-1196) married c. 1170 (as her 2nd husband - she was a widow) Juetta de Arches (d.1206), daughter of William de Arches. William was a son of Osbern de Arches, a Domesday tenant-in-chief for Lincolnshire and Yorkshire, who died 1118.
    The Arches fief comprised seven knight's fees in the West Riding of Yorkshire, centered on the manor of Thorp Arch and held in the Honour of Mowbray.
    Their daughter Isabel de Brus (d. after 1230) married Sir Henry de Percy, son of Sir Jocelin of Louvain and Agnes de Percy. Isabel de Brus & Henry de Percy were our ancestors. See files M1A-5, MHIK-6 & HM2-5.
    2. Robert II 'le Meschin' (1124-1194) (see # 4)
    3. Pagan. He was supposed have been the founder of the family of Bruce at Pickering.
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    M4A-7

    4. Robert II 'le Meschin" de Brus, Lord of Annandale in Scotland
    He was born ca 1124 in Annandale and died in 1194 at age 70.
    He was probably buried at Gisborough Priory in Guisborough, North Riding, Yorkshire, a monastery founded by his father.

    He was only age 14 when he fought for the Scottish king at the Battle of the Standard on 22 August 1138 while his father fought for the English. He is said the have been taken prisoner by his won father at this engagement, who sent him to King Stephen, but that monarch courteously remitted him to his mother at Skelton. The whole affair was probably a family arrangement to prevent the lands, in the case of either side winning, by going out of the family by forfeiture.

    He was of Hartlepool in county Durham and had the lordship of Hart in the Bishopric of Durham.

    His father's allegiances were compromised when David I invaded England in the later 1130s, and his father had renounced his fealty to David before the 1138 Battle of the Standard.

    He became Lord of Annandale as his father's gift just before the Battle of the Standard.

    The younger Robert, However, remained loyal to King David and took over his father's land in Scotland, whilst the English territories remained with the elder Robert and passed on to the later's elder son Adam, who succeeded to the lordship of Skelton.

    He flourished under Scottish kings David I, Malcolm IV and William "The Lion".
    Robert de Brus had a grant of certain lands in Durham from his father, on a complaint made by him that he had no wheaten bread in Annandale; he had also a confirmation of the last-named territory from William the Lion, dated at Lochmaben, circa 1166.

    Robert made Lochmaden the center of his lordship and constructed a new 'caput' (lordship seat) there. It was here he built a castle - possibly a 'keep'.

    Before 1176 he made a grant with his wife Eufemia of the Church of St. Hilda's Isle, Hartlepool, co. Durham, to the canons of Gisborough.

    He married (1st) Judith of Lancaster, daughter of Sir William de Lancaster I, Lord of Kendal. He was the first recorded person to bear the name "Lancaster", which became quite illustrious in British history.
    There is no record of their children.
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    M4A-8
    He married (2nd) a lady whose Christian name was Euphemia. Her family name is thought to have been 'of Aumale', 'de Aumale' or 'de Albamarla'.

    She was reported to be the daughter of Ingelram d'Aumale (d.after 1158), brother of William, Count of Aumale, 1sr Earl of Albemarle. The Aumale/Albamarla family was originally from Normandy - Seine-Inf., arrondissement Neufchatel, cantonment Aumale.

    It was reported that 'domina Eufemia' was witness to notice by Robert de Brus, her husband, of a gift of a house with its manse and land in Lochmaben to the brethern of the Hospital of St. Peter in York.

    They had the following known children:
    1. Robert died 1191 - his wife had been Isabel of Scotland, illegitimate daughter of King William I of Scotland. He died without issue.
    Isabel is our ancestor with her marriage to her 2nd husband, Robert de Ros, Lord of Hamlake Castle and of Helmsley, co. York. He was a Magna Carta Surety Baron.
    See file MCA12.
    2. William died ca 1215 (see # 5)
    3. Bernard
    4. Agatha, died 1185. Note that Agatha de Brus was also our ancestor as the wife of Ralph Fitz Ribald (d. after 1168). See file MCA2B # 2.
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    Note: the first wife of Robert de Brus.
    His first wife had been Judith of Lancaster, daughter of Sir William de Lancaster I, Lord of Kendal. He was the first recorded person to bear the name Lancaster, which became quite illustrious in British history. There is no record of their children.
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    M4A-9

    5. William de Brus, 3rd Lord Annandale in Scotland
    He was born c.1158 and died on July 16, in either 1211 or 1212 - possibly before 26 June 1215.

    He succeeded his father when the latter died in 1196.

    He held the English manors of Helt and Haltwhistle in Northumberland.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haltwhistle

    Also from Burke's Extinct Peerage (1883) p. 80:
    William de Brus was the possessor of a large number of estates in Northern England. He obtained from king John the grant of a weekly market at Harilpool (sic) and he granted lands to the canons of Gysburn (sic).

    Very little is known of his activities. He made a few appearances in the English government records and witnessed a charter of King William of Scotland.

    It was recorded that in 1201 he had charters for a market and fair, granted by King John to William de Brus.

    He married about 1178:
    Christina _____________

    Note: The Scots Peerage, II, p.430 gives William de Brus' wife only as Christina. No information is given on her parentage, although it was stated that her father was Walter Fitz Alan, 3rd Lord High Steward of Scotland.

    It was recorded on 11 Nov. 1218 that her dower included a third of a manor of Hartlepool in County Durham.

    They had three sons and one daughter:
    1. Robert de Brus IV (his successor) (see # 6)
    2. William
    3. John
    4. Euphemia who married Patrick II, 6th Earl of Dunbar and were the parents of our ancestor Isabella of Dunbar, wife of Roger Fitz John, Lord of Warkworth and of Clavering (see file MCA3-2).
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    Christina married (2nd) Patrick I, 5th Earl of Dunbar.
    William de Brus had married (1st) c.1184 Ada (of Scotland), a natural daughter of King William I. He died in 1232. Ada had died in 1200.
    Their son, Patrick II, 6th Earl of Dunbar (d.1248) married Euphemia, daughter of Walter Fitz Alan, 3rd High Steward of Scotland. Our ancestor was their daughter Isabel de Dunbar with her marriage to Roger Fitz John, Lord of Warkworth (see # 4 above).
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    Ancestral Roots - Line 252-27

    6. Robert de Brus IV, "The Noble" 4th Lord of Annandale in Scotland
    He was born 1184 and died c. 1245.
    He was buried at Gisborough Priory in Guisborough in North Riding of Yorkshire.

    He was of Hartlepool in County Durham.

    It was recorded that on 26 June 1215, Robert de Brus, son and heir of William de Brus, was granted a Wednesday market and fair by King John.

    He married in 1220:
    Isobel (Isabella/Isabel) of Huntingdon
    also Isobella le Scot (her more common byname)
    She was born 1206 Huntingdon in Huntingdonshire and died before 20 March 1251/52.
    Note: Scots Peerage has her birth as 1206 and died ca. 1251.

    She was the 2nd daughter of David of Scotland, 8th Earl of Huntingdon (d.1219) and Maude of Chester (1171-c.1233). Maude was more commonly known as Maude de Keveliock. David was the younger brother of Malcolm (IV) and William (I) 'the Lion' both kings of Scotland. See file MCA12-1 for King William of Scotland in our ancestry.

    In 1238 she had manors of Hatfield Regis and Writtle in Essexshire as her share of the Chester inheritance.

    In 1243 she was held to have received possession of Great Baddow in Essexshire.

    It was recorded that before 20 March 2151/52, her manor of Writtle and Hatfield (Broad Oak) in Co. Essex, and the ˝ hundred pertaining to Hatfield, were taken into the king's hand and her son did homage therefore in April or May. These manors, etc. had been granted to her, 16 Oct. 1241, in exchange for her share of the inheritance of John, Earl of Chester, in that Earldom.

    With the marriage of Robert de Brus and Isabella of Huntingdon, legitimate royal blood of Scotland was introduced into the Bruce family, which gave the descendants of Robert de Brus their claim to the throne of Scotland. And by this match, the lords of Annandale attained to high rank among the most powerful and wealthy noble families of Scotland and England.

    They had one known child, Robert de Brus V (see # 7) and possibly two others - Edward, and Beatrice de Brus, married to Hugo de Neville.
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    M4A-12
    MCA # 731-732
    Ancestral Roots - Line 252-28

    7. Robert de Brus V, "The Competitor" 5th Lord of Annandale in Scotland
    He was also known as Robert Bruce
    He was born about 1215 (of age in or before 1237) and died on Good Friday 31 March 1295 at Lochmaben Castle Priory in Scotland .
    Per The Scots Peerage he was born in 1210 and 'came of age' in 1231.
    He was buried 17 April 1295 alongside his father at Gisborough Priory, Guisborough in North Riding, Yorkshire.

    He was of Annandale in Scotland. Among the hundreds of manors that he held were Hartlepool in county Durham and Writtle and Hatfield in county Essex, etc. and in the right of his 2nd wife, of Ireby in Cumberland.

    In 1252, he had his mother's 1/3 share of the earldom of Huntingdon.

    He was a feudal lord in Scotland and northern England during prelude stages of Wars of Scottish Independence, a Regent of Scotland in mid-13th century and also a leading contender to be King of Scotland on 1290-92. His nickname of "The Competitor" came from his competition for the Scottish succession (kingship) in 1292.

    He was descended from royal Scots lineage that would give him and his family a claim to the Crown of Scotland. In 1306, long after his death, his grandson Robert the Bruce (d.1329) eventually succeeded in becoming the king - as King Robert I of Scotland.

    He served at the side of King Henry III of England in the (2nd) Wars of the Barons (1264-1267). He was a supporter of King Henry III in April 1264 at Nottingham and fought at the Battle of Lewes in Sussex, 14 May 1264. In that battle, he was captured by the leader of the anti-royalist forces, Simon de Montfort, but was ransomed by his son Robert.

    His possessions were extended initially by his marriage to Isabella de Clare (of the historic and wealthy Clare dynasty) and later after the defeat of Simon de Montfort at the Battle of Evesham (1265), via a series of grants that included the estates of the former rebel barons Walter de Fauconberg and John de Melsa.

    Following the Battle of Evesham, he was appointed Governor of Carlisle Castle and Sheriff of Cumberland.

    King Henry III also re-appointed Robert a Justice and Constable of Carlisle and keeper of the Castle in 1267, a position he had been sacked from in 1255 for his support during the rebellion.

    M4A-13
    Robert was Regent of Scotland sometime during minority of his second cousin King Alexander III of Scotland (1241-1286) and was occasionally recognized as a Tanist (heir designated in the king's lifetime) of the Scottish Throne.

    He was summoned to attend King Edward I at Shrewsbury in 1283 by writ directed 'Roberto de Brus domino Vallis Anandi'.

    In 1291 Robert de Brus was recorded as 'Robertus de Brus dominus Vallis Anandie' and
    swore allegiance to King Edward I at Berwick-upon-Tweed. (Berwick was then in Scotland, now in England.)

    John de Balliol as King of Scots
    After the extinction of the senior line of the Scottish royal house (the line of William I of Scotland) David of Huntingdon's descendants were the primary candidates for the throne of Scotland. Robert was second cousin of kings of Scotland and descended in 4th generation from King David I of Scotland. But John de Balliol was a third cousin of kings and descended in 5th generation from King David I, the most recent common ancestor who had been Scottish king. The ensuing "Great Cause" was concluded in 1292. By it King Edward I gave the Crown of Scotland to Robert's great rival, John de Balliol, who was crowned King of Scots in Scone Abbey on November 30, 1291. Edward soon made it clear that he regarded Scotland as his vassal state. The Bruce family lost what they regarded as their rightful place on the Scottish throne.

    After the award of the Crown of Scotland to John de Balliol on 5 Nov. 1292, Brus resigned all his claim to the Kingdom of Scotland to his son, Robert, Earl of Carrick.

    In 1292, the market at Ireby in Cumberland was held by Robert de Brus, the elder, and Christian, his 2nd wife, the heiress of grantee William de Ireby, under a charter granted by King Henry III 29 Nov. 1236.

    In 1293 he had a market at Hartlepool, Durham within the liberties of the Bishop of Durham.

    However, in 1306, the crown was assumed by a grandson of Robert himself, who became King Robert I - known as "Robert the Bruce".

    M4A-14
    Robert de Brus V married (1st) on 12 May 1240:
    Isabella (Isabel) de Clare
    She was born 8 Nov. 1226 in Gloucestershire and died after 10 July 1264.

    She was a daughter of Gilbert de Clare (d.1230), Earl of Hereford, Earl of Gloucester, Lord of Clare, Magna Carta Surety Baron by Lady Isabella Marshal (d.1239/40) of Pembroke, daughter of Sir William Marshal, "The Greatest Knight".

    The maritagium (dower) of Isabella de Clare was the vill (village) of Ripe in East Sussex.

    Robert de Brus V and Isabella de Clare had two sons and two daughters:
    1. Robert, Knt. (Earl of Carrick). His wife was Margery (Margaret) of Carrick and were the parents of legendary Scots hero Robert of Bruce (1274-1329), later becoming King Robert I of Scotland.
    2. Richard, Knt.,
    3. Isabel
    4. Mary (ref: MCA page 825) (see # 8)
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    Robert de Brus, 5th Lord of Annandale, married 2nd before 10 May 1275:
    Christina (Christiana) d' Ireby, daughter and heiress of Sir William d'Ireby, Cumberland, by Christian, daughter and co-heiress of Odard de Hodeholme.
    Christina d'Ireby died shortly before 6 July 1305.
    Robert and Christian had no recorded children.
    Christian d'Ireby had been the widow successively of Thomas de Lascelles, Knt. (d.1260) and of Adam de Gesemuth, Knt., of Cramlington, etc., Derbyshire (d.1270/74).
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    M4A-15
    MCA # 825

    8. Mary de Brus
    She was born c.1258, probably in Scotland, and died sometime after 1285.

    She married (with grant of marriage 8 August 1265) - before 1276:
    Sir Ralph de Toeni/Tosny VII, Lord of Flamstead, Co. Hertford
    He was born c.1255 (age 22 in 1277) and died testate in Gascony before 29 July 1295, possibly 27 May 1295.

    He was of Painscastle in Radnorshire (now Powys), Kirtling, Brinkley, Long Stanton and Whittlesford in Cambridgeshire, Carnanton (in Mawgan) in Cornwall, Walthmastow in Essex (Gt. London), Garsington in Oxfordshire, Newton Toney and Stratford Tony in Wiltshire and Elmley Lovett in Worcestershire, etc.

    He was son and heir of the 1st marriage of Roger de Toeni (died c.1263-64), Lord of Flamstead, co. Hertford and Alice de Bohun (died c. 1264), daughter of Humphrey de Bohun.

    His marriage and the custody of his lands were granted respectively to Humphrey de Bohun, Earl of Hereford and Essex, and to Edmund, the King's son, 12 May 1264, but both were re-granted to Richard de Brus, Knt., 8 August 1265.

    He was actively employed in the Welsh wars of 1277, 1282-3, and 1287, and fought in Gascony in 1294-1295 and died there on 27 May 1295.

    He was going beyond seas with the Earl of Hereford and Essex in 1285..

    Note: for more on their lives and his family history, see file MH1F # 8.
    Tosny: Originally a Norman name - later spelled Toeni or Tony.

    Their children were:
    1. Robert de Tosny, Lord Tony (1276-1309)
    2. Alice de Tosny/Toeni (1285-1324) (see # 9)
    3. _______ - espoused to Robert Tybotot in 1295.
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    For more on the following persons, see file MHIF # 9:
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    9. Alice de Toeni married c.1309/10 Sir Guy de Beauchamp, 10th Earl of Warwick
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    For more on the following persons, see file More 12 # 5:
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    10. Sir Thomas de Beauchamp, 11th Earl of Warwick married 1326/29 Katherine Mortimer
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    For more on the following persons, see file More 11 # 12
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    11. Maud/Matilda de Beauchamp married 1357 Roger de Clifford 5th Lord Clifford
    12. Sir Thomas de Clifford 6th Lord Clifford married c.1378/9 Elizabeth de Ros
    13. Sir John de Clifford 7th Lord Clifford married c.1404 Elizabeth de Percy
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    For more on the following persons, see file More 1 # 20:
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    14. Thomas de Clifford 8th Lord Clifford married c.1424 Joan (Jane) Dacre
    15. Maud/Matilda Clifford married c.1450/55 Edmund Sutton (Dudley)
    16. Dorothy Sutton (Dudley) married c.1473 Richard Wrottesley Esq.
    17. Joan (Jane) Wrottesley married c.1500/10 Richard Cressett Esq.
    18. Margaret Cressett married c.1535 Thomas More Esq.
    19. Jasper More, Esq. married 1572 Elizabeth Smale (Small)
    20. Katherine More married 1611 Samuel More Esq. (R.M. father - Jacob Blakeway)
    21. Richard More married 1636 Christian Hunter
    22. Susanna More married c.1675 Samuel Dutch
    23. Susanna Dutch married 1705 Benjamin Knowlton Sr.
    24. Susannah Knowlton married 1739 Josiah Dodge (see Rev. William Skepper >>>)
    25. Josiah Dodge married 1761 Hannah Conant
    26. Mary Dodge married 1784 Cyrus Warner
    27. Miriam Warner married 1825 Foster Ketcham
    28. Milan Ketcham married 1861 Sarah Harper
    29. Ransom E. Ketcham married 1891 Nancy Jane Campbell
    30. Fay S. Ketcham married 1915 Halleck F. Gray
    31. Ruby J. Gray married 1935 Alton H. Rogers
    32. Alton E. Rogers

    M4A-17 A. Rogers aer437@yahoo.com




    Father: ROBERT I (NOTES) BRUSI OR (L) DE BRUCE b: BET 1015 AND 1030 in NORMANDY, FRANCE

    Marriage 1 EMMA GUNNORA OR OSTRIDA (NOTES) (L) DE BRITTANY b: BET 1000 AND 1035 in RENNES, ILLE-ET-VILAINE. BRETAGNE OR BRITTANY, FRANCE
    • Married: BEF 1049 in CARRICK, ARGULL, SCOTLAND
    Children
    1. Has Children ADAM ADELM I (PH) (NOTES) BRUS (L) DE BRUIS b: BET 1020 AND 1060 in BRUIS CASTLE, BRIX, MANCHE OR BRIX OR BRUIS, NORMANDY, FRANCE OR CARRICK ARGYLSHIRE, SCOTLAND
    2. Has Children ROGER (NOTES) SHERIFF GLOUCESTER (L) DE PITRES b: BET 1020 AND 1045 in BAL DE PITRES, NORMANDY, FRANCE
    3. Has Children WILLIAM I (NOTES) DE BRAMBER BARON (L) DE BRAOSE b: BET 1000 AND 1052 in BRIOUZE OR BRIENZE, NORMANDY, FRANCE
    4. Has Children AGATHA ALICE (NOTE) DE BUCI DE BRUCE (L) DE BRUS b: BET 1050 AND 1082 in WELDON, NORTHAMPTONSHIRE, ENGLAND
    5. Has No Children ROBERT II (NOTES) DE BRUIS LORD OF (L) CLEVELAND b: ABT 1051 in BRUIS CASTLE, BRIX, MANCHE, NORMANDY, FRANCE

    Marriage 2 AGNES (NOTES) DE ST. CLARE (L) DE SAINT CLARE b: BET 1015 AND 1058 in ST. CLAIR-SUR-ELLE, MANCHE, NORMANDY, FRANCE OR BARNSTABLE, DEVONSHIRE, ENGLAND
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