Name: ROBERT I (PH) (NOTES) DE BRUS (L) DE BRUCE
Birth: BET 1045 AND 1124 in BRUIS CASTLE, CHERBOURG, FRANCE OR SKELTON CASTLE, YORKSHIRE, ENGLAND
ALIA: ROBERT (PH) (NOTES) III BRUS (L) DE BRUS
Title: LORD OF SKELTON
1 AKA ROBERT (NOTES) DE BRUIS OR (L) DE BRUCE
2 AKA ROBERT (NOTES)(L) DE BRUX 1ST LORD CLEVELAND
3 AKA ROBERT (PH) (NOTES) (L) BRUS
4 AKA ROBERT (NOTES)(L) DE BRUCE LORD OF SKELTON
5 AKA ROBERT (NOTES)(L) DE BRUCE 1ST BARON OF ANNANDALE
6 AKA Robert (NOTES) (L) de Brus I, Lord of Cleveland in Yorkshire & 1st Lord of Annandale
Death: BET 1094 AND 11 MAY 1141 in SCOTLAND OR SKELTON CASTLE, YORKSHIRE, ENGLAND
AN INDIVIDUAL'S NAME INCLUDING THE NOTATION (PH) MEANS PROOF-HUBBARD.
THIS INDIVIDUAL IS ONE OF A LINE FROM ADAM ADELM I (PH) (NOTES) BRUS (L) DE BRUIS BORN 1020-1051 TO WILLIAM (PH) (NOTES) (L) NEVILLE BORN ABOUT 1430.
ALL THE SOURCES FOR THIS LINE ARE IN THE NOTES FOR WILLIAM (PH) (NOTES) (L) NEVILLE.
SOME SOURCES SAY ROBERT'S FATHER WAS ADAM ADELM I (PH) (NOTES) BRUS (L) DE BRUIS AND HIS MOTHER WAS EMMA (L) RAMSEY.AND HIS GRANDARENTS WERE ROBERT II (NOTES) LE BRUS DE BRUS (L) DE BRUSE.AND EMMA GUNNORA OR OSTRIDA (NOTES) (L) DE BRITTANY.
OTHER POSSIBLE PARENTS ARE SHOWN BELOW BUT THIS INDIVIDUAL IS NOT SHOWN AS A CHILD ON THE FOLLOWING POSSIBLE PARENTS' FAMILY PAGES, TO DO SO WOULD BE CONSIDERED ERRORS BY THIS PROGRAM. EVEN THOUGH THESE LAST POSSIBLE PARENTS MAY BE THE CORRECT ONES, SHOWING MORE THAN ONE SET OF PARENTS COULD CAUSE MY "FAMILY TREE" PROGRAM TO MALFUNCTION
OTHER SOURCES SAY ROBERT I (PH) (NOTES) DE BRUS (L) DE BRUCE PARENTS WERE (HIS GRANDARENTS ABOVE) ROBERT II (NOTES) LE BRUS DE BRUS (L) DE BRUSE AND HIS EMMA GUNNORA OR OSTRIDA (NOTES) (L) DE BRITTANY.(WHILE OTHER SOURCES SAY THESE GRANDPARENTS WERE THE PARENTS OF ROBERT I (PH) (NOTES) DE BRUS (L) DE BRUCE'S GREAT GRANDFATHER BORN BEF 1015.
STILL OTHER SOURCES SAY ROBERTS MOTHER WAS AGNES (NOTES) DE ST. CLARE (L) DE SAINT CLARE ANOTHER OF HIS GRANDFATHER HERE ROBERT II (NOTES) LE BRUS DE BRUS (L) DE BRUSE'S WIVES.
ROBERT'S FULL TITLE WAS LORD OF CLEVELAND, 1ST LORD OF ANNANDALE.
ROBERT WAS ALSO KNOWN AS "LE MESCHIN".
SOME SOURCES SHOW THREE ADAMS BETWEEN ROBERT I (PH) (NOTES) DE BRUS (L) DE BRUCE AND PETER I (PH) (NOTES) SKELTON (L) DE BRUS (INSTEAD OF THE ONE, WITH MANY WIVES, THAT I SHOW HERE).
THEY SHOW THE LINE AS:
1ROBERT I (PH) (NOTES) DE BRUS (L) DE BRUCE
b: 1071 d: 11 MAY 1141
+ AGNES PAGNEL OR (L) PAYNEL b: 1076 d: 1170
2 **Adam de Brus b: ABT 1099 d: 1143
+AGNES (NOTES) D' AUMALE OR (L) DE AUMALE
b: ABT 1103 d: 1130
3 **Adam II de Brus b: ABT 1118 d: 1172
+ JUETTA OR IVETTA (NOTES) (L) DE ARCHES
b: ABT 1116 d: ABT 1206
4 **Adam de Brus b: ABT 1143 d: 1196
+ JOHANNA (NOTES) DE GERNON (L) DE MESCHINES
b: ABT 1145
5 PETER I (PH) (NOTES) SKELTON (L) DE BRUS
b: ABT 1152 d: 1222
+ JOAN (L) DE GRAMMARIE
I SHOW IT HERE AS THE PREPONDERANCE OF EVIDENCE SEEMS TO SHOW IT BUT WHAT IS RIGHT?
EUGENE W. HUBBARD BELIEVES THE KNOWN LINE STARTS WITH ROBERT'S FATHER ADAM AND SHOWS
1. ADAM I DE BRUIS was born about 1020 in Brix, Normandy, FRA.
ADAM I DE BRUIS and an UNLISTED WOMAN had the following children:
+2i.ROBERT I DE BRUCE.
2. ROBERT I DE BRUCE1 was born about 1045 in Bruis Castle, Cherbourg, France. He died about 1094 in Scotland? - aka Robert Bruce I. He was also known as Braose or Breaux or Brus. Robert de Bruce, the first, founder of the Bruce Dynasty of Scotland, came from the Bruis castle near Cherbourg, France in 1066 as a follower of William the Conqueror. He died about 1094. The family name also found spelled Broase, Breaux, Brus and Bruz. [p.203, Webster's "Biographical Dictionary."] This nobleman, from whom some of the kings of Scotland, and the illustrious family of Bruce, Marquis of Ailesbury, are descended, was a person of such valour, and so much confided in by William the Conqueror, that he rewarded him with no less than forty three lordships in the East and West Ridings of Yorkshire, and fifty-one in the North Riding of the county; whereof the manor and castle of Skelton were the capital of this Barony.
[Internet: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/NRY/Skeltonincleveland/SkeltonInClevelandHistory.html ]
EUGENE THEN SAYS,
ROBERT I DE BRUCE and an UNLISTED WOMAN had the following children:
+3i.ROBERT II DE BRUCE.
+4ii.ADAM II DE BRUS.
ALSO, SOME SOURCES SAY ROBERT WAS THE FATHER OF LUCY (NOTES) (L) BRUCE DE LA HAYE OR DE LE HAYE BUT HE IS NOT SHOWN SO HERE BECAUSE SHOWING MORE THAN ONE SET OF PARENTS COULD CAUSE MY "FAMILY TREE" PROGRAM TO MALFUNCTION.
THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION WAS RECEIVED FROM Alton Rogers email@example.com IN APRIL 2009.
(PA and MCA numbers pertain to pages in the books Plantagenet Ancestry and Magna Carta Ancestry.)
OUR ANCESTRY FROM THE ‘DE BRUS’ FAMILY - 12TH CENTURY LORDS OF ANNANDALE IN SCOTLAND
They were a feudal Anglo-Norman family that held a remarkable barony in the English border zone, as well as lands in northern England.
This is the ancestral family of the legendary Scots hero ‘Robert the Bruce’.
This family from page 23 of the 1848 book ‘The Roll of Battle Abbey’:
‘The family of Brutz, Brus or Bruce assumed its name from the castle of La Brusce in Normandy, near Valognes which was built by Robert de Brutz, or Brusce, a councilor to Duke Robert. His youngest son, Robert de Brutz, or in English, Brus, together with William, his son, followed the standard of their kinsman, the Conqueror, into England, where Robert is said to have died, very shortly after the battle at Hastings’.
(THERE IS DISAGREEMENT ON THE LINE BACK FROM HERE, AS DESCRIBED ABOVE, AND I SHOW IT HERE AS OTHERS SAY IT WAS, NOT THE WAY IT'S DECRIBED ABOVE. I MAY BE WRONG.)
(ALSO, THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION FOR ROBERT'S 1. AND 2. I SHOW HERE UNDER THIS ROBERT FOR IT APPEARS TO DESCRIBE JUST ONE ROBERT. I, AND OTHERS, SHOW ONE HERE, ALTON SHOWS TWO AND I COPY BOTH DESCRIPTIONS BELOW. HERE AGAIN, I MAY BE WRONG.)
1. Robert de Brus I, Lord of Cleveland in Yorkshire & 1st Lord of Annandale
He was born c.1071/78 in Yorkshire and died in 11 May 1141 in Skelton, Yorkshire.
Probably buried in Gisborough Priory, Guisborough now in the ceremonial county of North Yorkshire. Gisborough Priory was found by Robert de Brus (Bruce) in 1119. The town of Guisborough was the ancient capital of Cleveland.
He was an early 12th century Norman baron and knight, responsible for founding the Bruce dynasty in Britain. He was head of the barony of Bruce and became the first baron of Skelton in Yorkshire and Annandale in Dumfries and Galloway in Scotland.
He was a monastic patron, and is most remembered as the founder of Gisborough Priory in Yorkshire in 1129. It lies in the town of Guisborough, now in the borough of Redcar and Cleveland. The Gisborough priory was largely destroyed in the 16th century Dissolution of the Monasteries and the stones were used for other buildings in the town.
In 1106, he had a grant of Skelton in Yorkshire by King Henry I and exchanged lands for Danby in Cleveland, Yorkshire.
He was Lord of Cleveland and of Skelton and Danby in Cleveland, Yorkshire. Skelton-in-Cleveland is presently a small town in the borough of Redcar & Cleveland in North Yorkshire. Skelton Castle in North Yorkshire was built by this family in 1200.
He was much in the company of David fitz Malcolm (after 1124, King David I of Scotland) and Robert’s presences and absences at King Henry’s court seem to coincide with David’s. Robert was undoubtedly present when David forced King Alexander I of Scotland to hand over a large territory of land in southern Scotland to Robert de Brus around 1113.
King David I of Scotland probably made Robert Lord of Annandale in Dumfries and Galloway sometime soon after 1113, and when David became King of Scots in 1124, one of his first acts was to confirm de Brus in his Annandale possessions which totaled about 200,000 acres of land.
It was recorded that ‘Robertus de Brus’ made a gift of 20 carucates and 2 bovates of land, and the town of Guisborough to the canons of Guisborough, confirmed by grandson Adam de Brus before 1190.
After the death of King Henry, David turned against Henry’s successor King Stephen of Blois. On this basis Robert and David fell out, and Robert renounced his homage to David before the Battle of the Standard in 1138 in which he commanded a large part of the army of the English king Stephen of Blois.
Robert married Agnes Paganel
She was a daughter of Randulph Paganel, the High Sheriff of York.
They had two sons - his older son Adam (d.1143) also allegedly fought against David at the Battle of the Standard, but his younger son Robert (d.1141) chose to remain in David’s allegiance, fighting against his own father. It was the younger Robert who was given possession of Annandale. Adam and his descendants continued to hold lands in England as Lords of Skelton in Yorkshire.
2. Robert de Brus, Lord of Annandale in Dumfries and Galloway in Scotland
He was born c.1108 and died in 1141
He was the 2nd son, with his elder brother Adam having inherited most of the English lands.
He was Lord of Annandale on his father’s resignation - prior to the Battle of Standards in 1138.
He married c. 1126 Agnes ________
It was recorded ‘Agnes uxor Roberti de Brus’ founded with her husband the Middlesborough Priory as a cell of Whitby Abbey in North Yorkshire.
They had two children - Robert (d.1189) and Agatha.
Father: ADAM ADELM I (PH) (NOTES) BRUS (L) DE BRUIS b: BET 1020 AND 1060 in BRUIS CASTLE, BRIX, MANCHE OR BRIX OR BRUIS, NORMANDY, FRANCE OR CARRICK ARGYLSHIRE, SCOTLAND
Mother: EMMA (NOTES) RAMSAY DE RAMSEY OR (L) RAMSEY b: BET 1045 AND 1062 in CARRICK, ARGYLLSHIRE, SCOTLAND
AGNES (NOTES) (L) PAGNEL OR PAYNEL b: BET 1070 AND 1095 in DUDLEY CASTLE, WARWICKSHIRE, ENGLAND
- ROBERT II III (PH) (NOTES) 2ND LORD (L) BRUCE b: BET 1090 AND 1132 in SCOTLAND OR SKELTON CASTLE, YORKSHIRE, ENGLAND
- ADAM I II (PH) (NOTES) SKELTON (L) DE BRUS b: BET 1090 AND 1143 in BRIX, NORMANDY, FRANCE OR SKELTON CASTLE, YORKSHIRE, ENGLAND
- AGATHA (NOTES) (L) DE BRUCE OR DE BRUS b: ABT 1120 in SKELTON CASTLE, YORKSHIRE, ENGLAND
AGNES (NOTES) (L) DE ANNAND b: ABT 1090