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  • ID: I156770
  • Name: Adelaide (Blanche\Adele) D' Anjou
  • Given Name: Adelaide (Blanche\Adele) D'
  • Surname: Anjou 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
  • Name: Blanca D'anjou
  • Given Name:
  • Surname: Blanca D'anjou
  • Name: Adelaide Or Blanca De Anjou
  • Given Name: Adelaide Or Blanca De
  • Surname: Anjou 17 18
  • Name: Adelaide (Or Blanche)
  • Given Name: Adelaide
  • Surname: (Or Blanche)
  • Suffix: D'anjou 19
  • Sex: F
  • Birth: Abt 942 in Anjou/Pays-DE-La-Loire, France 20 19 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
  • Note:
    Sources for this Information:
    date: abt 945 [Ref: Settipani Anjou p265] abt 945/50 [Ref: Settipani Nobles p321, Settipani Nobles p339], parents: [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p4, Paget HRHCharles p139, Settipani Anjou p247], father: [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p10, DeVajay Aragon p291, ES II #187, ES II #1, ES II #59, Moriarty Plantagenet p37, Settipani Nobles p339, Weis AR7 #101, Weis AR7 #141A, Weis AR7 #53], brother: Godefredus Count of Anjou [Ref: Settipani LGA p6]
    Sources with Inaccurate Information:
    parents: Geoffrey I Count of Anjou (#10805) & Adelaide (#10806) [Ref: Watney WALLOP #9], father: Geoffrey I Count of Anjou (#10805) [Ref: Watney WALLOP #813]
  • Death: 1026 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France 21 17 6 19 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
  • Note:
    Sources for this Information:
    date: [Ref: DeVajay Aragon p291, ES II #187, ES II #1, ES II #59, ES III.1 #116, ES III.4 #804, Moriarty Plantagenet p28, Moriarty Plantagenet p37, Moriarty Plantagenet p39, Moriarty Plantagenet p4, Settipani Nobles p339, Weis AR7 #141A] after 1026 [Ref: Settipani Nobles p321]
    Sources with Inaccurate Information:
    date: 990 [Ref: Paget HRHCharles p139]
    22
  • Event: Alt. Birth Abt 942 17 18
  • _UID: FC76D686AE154CA3B9A294D1CD922093526E
  • Change Date: 12 Mar 2013 at 19:16
  • Note:
    [jweber.ged]

    The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 30 Jul 2000, by Todd A Farmerie:

    From: Todd A. Farmerie (farmerie@interfold.com)
    Subject: Re: Adelaide d'Anjou (was Tiburge d'Orange)
    Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
    Date: 2000/07/30

    TatjanaAV wrote:
    >
    > >Blanche appears to have been more of a nickname. She is better known as
    > >Adelaide, wife of Stephen of Gevaudan, Raymond of Toulouse, Louis V of
    > >France, and William of Provence.
    >
    > So... This Adelaide was indeed married to Raymond de Toulouse? I've seen this
    > in only one account--all others do not have Raymond in the genealogy at all
    > (Guillaume III is recorded as the son Raymond III Pons de Toulouse and Garsinde
    > de Rouergue).

    Yes. This was only recently rediscovered. There is a surviving charter in which Guillaume names his wife Emma and mother Adelaide, and there is every reason to think this was the same Adelaide, known to have married "Count Raimond". The chronology is aufully long to have William a son of Raymond Pons as well, and the near-contemporary Roda Codex gives Raymond Pons no son William, but does give him a son Raymond. These make it evident that a reworking is in order.

    > When were Adelaide's parents married? I've seen it as 937, when
    > she was supposedly born in 930, and has Guillaume III in 947.

    I don't think there is enough information to provide such a date. Certainly both of them you give are nothing more than guesses, and need to be adjusted. As to William's birth, this date is wrong, based on his mistaken placement as son of Raymond Pons. A more recent guess is about 975.

    > Who are ALL of her children (with the correct fathers)?

    Stasser gives her the following:

    by Etienne de Brioude:
    1. Pons de Gevaudan
    2. Bertrand de Brioude
    3. Etienne de Brioude
    4. Ermengarde/Humberge, Countess of Auvergne
    5?. daughter, wife of Herbert of Troyes

    by Raymond:
    6. Guillaume Taillefer
    7?. Toda/Adelaide, Countess of Besalu (I question this one)
    8?. Letgarde

    by Guillaume II of Provence:
    9. Guillaume III
    10. Constance, Queen of France

    taf
    ---------------
    Also called Adelais and Adela. Second marriage for both Adelaide and Otto.
    K: Adelaid/Adelheid-Blanche d'Anjou. Also Aelis-Blanche d'Anjou, Alix-Blanche, etc.
    Roots: Adelaide (or Blanche).

    ...x
    [De La Pole.FTW]2, 1217, 1218, 1258; A. Roots 53, 141A; AF. Also called Adelais and Adela. Second marriage for both Adelaide and Otto. K: Adelaid/Adelheid-Blanche d'Anjou. Also Aelis-Blanche d'Anjou, Alix-Blanche, etc.
    Roots: Adelaide (or Blanche).
    --------------
    RESEARCH NOTES:
    married (1) Esteban I, conde de Gavaldan, (2) Luis V, rey de Francia, (3) Guillermo II, conde y marques de Provenza [Ref: DeVajay Aragon p291]

    Adelaide m(3) Wilhelm II Gf v Arles d.before 998. Separate dau Blanche (Alix) d.1026 m. William I Gf v Provence d.992 [Ref: ES III.1 #116]
    "OF ANJOU"




    Father: Fulk (Foulques) D'anjou b: Abt 909 in Chāteau d'Angers, Maine-et-Loire, Anjou, France
    Mother: Gerberga De Gatinais b: Abt 917 in Gātinais, Loiret, Orleans, France

    Marriage 1 Guillaume Taillefer b: Abt 955
    • Married: Abt 972 in 2ND Husband 23 17 6 18
    • Note:
      Sources for this Information:
      date: 981 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p4] 984/86 [Ref: ES II #1, ES III.1 #116, ES III.4 #804] 984/86 as third marriage of Adelaide [Ref: ES II #187, ES II #59] 984/um 986 [Ref: ES I.1 #6] after 981 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p28] second marriage of William [Ref: Paget HRHCharles p139, Weis AR7 #141A] third marriage of Adelaide of Anjou [Ref: DeVajay Aragon p291], divorced: 984 [Ref: ES II #1], names: William I & Blanche [Ref: ES III.1 #137, Watney WALLOP #813, Watney WALLOP #9], child: [Ref: ES II #11, ES II #187, Moriarty Plantagenet p118, Moriarty Plantagenet p28, Settipani LGA p6, Settipani Nobles p321, Weis AR7 #101, Weis AR7 #136, Weis AR7 #141A, Weis AR7 #53]
      Sources with Inaccurate Information:
      child: William II Count of Aries and Provence (#14264) [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p28, Settipani LGA p6, Watney WALLOP #813] dotted line to Toda (#22082) wife of Bernardo I Count of Besalu [Ref: ES II #187, ES III.1 #137]
    • Change Date: 11 Mar 2013
    Children
    1. Has Children Ermengarde Of Aries b: Abt 970
    2. Has Children Ermengarde De Toulouse
    3. Has Children Nonia De Granol b: 960
    4. Has Children Gerberga Of Provence b: Abt 970
    5. Has Children Toda De Provence b: Abt 970
    6. Has Children Constance Taillefer b: 973 in Toulouse, France
    7. Has Children William II Of Provence Count Of Provence b: Bet 983 and 984
    8. Has Children Odile De Provence b: Abt 985

    Marriage 2 Stephen Of Gevaudan b: Abt 920
    • Married: 0001
    • Note:
      Sources for this Information:
      date: first marriage of Adelaide [Ref: DeVajay Aragon p291, ES I.1 #6, ES II #187, ES II #1, ES II #59, ES III.1 #116, Paget HRHCharles p139] first marriage of Adelaide and second of Etienne [Ref: Settipani Nobles p55] second marriage of Etienne [Ref: Settipani Nobles p311], names: [Ref: Settipani Anjou p247], child: [Ref: ES III.4 #804, Settipani Nobles p313, Settipani Nobles p321, Settipani Nobles p55]
      Sources with Inaccurate Information:
      child: Ermengarde (#14243) wife of Robert I Count of Auvergne [Ref: Settipani Nobles p311, Settipani Nobles p321]
    • Change Date: 11 Mar 2013
    Children
    1. Has Children Agnes (Almodis) De Of Gervaudan b: Abt 980 in Gevaudan, Alpes-DE-Haute-Provence, Provence, France
    2. Has No Children Bertrand
    3. Has Children Pons Of Gevaudan b: Abt 970

    Marriage 3 Louis V King Of France b: Abt 966
    • Married: 982 in 3rd Husband - Divorced 984 24 6 11
    • Note:
      Sources for this Information:
      date: [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p10, ES I.1 #6, ES II #1, ES III.1 #116, Paget HRHCharles p139] 979 [Ref: ES III.4 #804] second marriage of Adelaide of Anjou [Ref: DeVajay Aragon p291, ES II #187, ES II #59], divorced: [Ref: ES II #187] 984 [Ref: ES III.4 #804]
    • Change Date: 11 Mar 2013

    Marriage 4 Odo William Otton Or Otto De Of Burgundy, Nevers, And Dijon b: Abt Sep 958
    • Married: Abt 1005
    • Note:
      Sources for this Information:
      date: 1002/5 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p37] abt 1005 [Ref: DeVajay Aragon p291] before 1016 [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p8] vor 1016 [Ref: ES I.1 #6, ES II #187, ES II #1, ES II #59, ES III.1 #116, ES III.4 #804], names: [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p39, Moriarty Plantagenet p4]
    • Change Date: 12 Mar 2013

    Marriage 5 Raymond IV Of Toulouse b: Abt 945
    • Married: 0002
    • Note:
      Sources for this Information:
      date: second marriage of Adelaide [Ref: Settipani Anjou p265], names: [Ref: Settipani Nobles p58], child: [Ref: Settipani Nobles p339, Settipani Nobles p55]
    • Change Date: 11 Mar 2013
    Children
    1. Has No Children Liedgarde Of Toulouse
    2. Has Children William III Taileffer Of Toulouse b: Abt 975

    Sources:
    1. Abbrev: Royalty for Commoners
      Title: Royalty for Commoners
      Author: Stuart, Roderick W.
      Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co.
      Note:
      ABBR Royalty for Commoners
      NS386753

      Source Media Type: Book
    2. Abbrev: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 136-21, 141a-20, 53-21, 101-21
      Quality: 3
    3. Abbrev: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Todd A. Farmerie, 30 Jul 2000
      Quality: 3
    4. Abbrev: Encyclopedia Britannica, Treatise on
      Title: Encyclopedia Britannica, Treatise on
      Page: Louis V
      Quality: 3
      Text: Adelaide, widow of an Aquitanian count.
    5. Abbrev: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968
      Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968
      Page: 14
      Quality: 3
      Text: Blanche d'Anjou
    6. Abbrev: jweber.ged
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    16. Abbrev: jweber.ged
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      Text: Date of Import: 22 Feb 2005
    17. Abbrev: Royalty for Commoners
      Title: Royalty for Commoners
      Author: Stuart, Roderick W.
      Publication: Name: Genealogical Publishing Co.;
    18. Abbrev: Hardin Clay Roots
      Title: Hardin Clay Roots
      Author: Norvan L. Johnson
      Repository:
        Name: Rootsweb.com
        http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com
    19. Abbrev: De La Pole
      Title: De La Pole
    20. Abbrev: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Dave Utzinger, 30 Mar 1999
      Quality: 3
    21. Abbrev: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 141a-20
      Quality: 3
    22. Abbrev: Joseph H. Kare Jr.
      Title: Joseph H. Kare Jr.
      Note: Joekare@hotmail.com
    23. Abbrev: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Todd A. Farmerie, 30 Jul 2000
      Text: no date, 2nd husb.
    24. Abbrev: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
      Page: Leo van de Pas, 19 May 2002
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