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  • ID: I160414
  • Name: Poppo (1055~1090) Von Roggenstein Und Berg
  • Given Name: Poppo (1055~1090)
  • Surname: Von Roggenstein Und Berg
  • Suffix: Graf
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: Abt 1055 in Roggenstein, Germany
  • Death: Abt 1090 in Berg, Germany
  • _UID: F62661168EE947CCAF9B041F6BE85999CFBA
  • Change Date: 6 Jan 2013 at 23:45
  • Note:
    http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SWABIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#PoppoBergMSophie

    1. POPPO (-11 Jul ----, bur ---, transferred to Zwiefalten). Graf von Berg. The necrology of Zwiefalten records the death "V Id Jul" of "Bobbo com de Berge, pater Hainrici senioris comitis de Berge"[1236]. m SOPHIE, daughter of --- (-26 Jun [1110], bur ---, transferred to Zwiefalten). Ortlieb's Chronicon of Zwiefalten names "Bobbonis comitis et Sophić ipsius uxori", when recording that their son Heinrich transferred their remains to Zwiefalten[1237]. The necrology of Zwiefalten records the death "VI Kal Jul" of "Sophia com de Berge"[1238]. Europäische Stammtafeln[1239] shows Sophia, wife of Graf Poppo, as Sophia of Hungary, daughter of Salomon King of Hungary. The source on which this is based has not so far been identified, but it appears unlikely chronologically. The granddaughter of Poppo and Sophia, Salome (second wife of Bolesaw III Duke of Poland), was born "before 1101" which, assuming she was her parents' oldest child (which is not known), would place the birth of her father in [1080] at the latest. If it is assumed that her paternal grandmother bore her own first child at the early age of 15, this would still place Sophia's birth in [1065] at the latest, when the wife of King Salamon was only about 11 years old. Until further evidence comes to light, it is assumed that the Hungarian affiliation of Poppo's wife was originally proposed as a hypothesis to explain the unusual first name "Salome" born by Sophia's daughter and granddaughter. However, the necrologies of Swabian monasteries show that the name "Salome", although not common, did exist on its own, not as a female form of "Salamon", during this period. Graf Poppo & his wife had three children:

    *a) HEINRICH (-Zwiefalten 24 Sep before 1116, bur Zwiefalten). Ortlieb's Chronicon of Zwiefalten names "Heinricus de Berge" as son of "Bobbonis comitis et Sophić ipsius uxori"[1240]. Graf von Berg. He became a monk at Zwiefalten. The necrology of Zwiefalten records the death "VIII Kal Oct" of "Heinricus com senior de Berge…sepultus in Capitolio" and his donation "cum patre suo Poppone et fratribus suis"[1241]. m ADELHEID von Mochental, daughter of [DIEPOLD [II] von Giengen Markgraf im Nordgau & his wife Liutgarde von Zähringen] (-1 Dec [1125]). The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. The necrology of Zwiefalten records the death "Kal Dec" of "Adelheit com de Mochintal et c v, mater Salome ducisse"[1242]. It is unusual for a deceased married noble lady to be referred to by her unmarried title in the necrologies. It is possible that "von Mochental" was the name of a second husband. Graf Heinrich & his wife had six children:

    **i) HEINRICH [II] (-24 Feb before 1127, bur Zwiefalten). Berthold's Chronicon of Zwiefalten names "Heinricus comes" as son of "Heinricus senior comes de Monte"[1243]. Graf von Berg. The necrology of Zwiefalten records the death "VI Kal Mar" of "Heinricus n c m com iunior de Berge…huius sorores Salome ducissa, Richinza ducissa et Sophia ducissa"[1244]. m [BERTHA von Boll]. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified.

    **ii) DIEPOLD [II] (-19 May [1160/65]). His parentage is confirmed by the Translatio Manus sancti Stephani which names "Salome uxor [Bolezlai Bolionorum ducis] filia Heinrici comitis de Berge sororque Diepoldi"[1245]. Graf von Berg. - see below.

    **iii) RAPOTO (-25 Jun after 1163). Berthold's Chronicon of Zwiefalten names "Rapto eius alter filius [=Heinricus senior comes de Monte]"[1246]. "…Comes Diepoldus de Berge ac frater suus Rapado…" witnessed the charter dated 14 Oct 1139 under which Konrad III King of Germany granted protection to the church of Denkendorf[1247]. The History of Salem Monastery lists those present at a court of "duce Friderico", including "Diepoldo et fratre eius Rapotone comitibus de Berge", undated but dateable to [1152][1248]. Graf von Berg. "Sex comites…comes Diepoldus et frater suus Rappoto…" witnessed the charter dated 1163 under which Ulrich Abbot of Reichenau confirmed donations tothe abbey[1249]. According to Europäische Stammtafeln, he was possible ancestor of the Grafen von Wartstein[1250]. m [UODILHILT Gräfin von Wartstein, daughter of --- (-29 Mar ----). The primary source which confirms her originand marriage has not yet been identified.]

    **iv) SALOME (before 1101-27 Jul 1144). The Chronica Boemorum names "Almuse" as wife of "dux Bolezlaus"[1251]. Berthold's Chronicon of Zwiefalten names (in order) "Richinza ductrix Boemić, Sophia ductrix Moravić, Salome ductrix Polonić" as sisters of "Heinricus comes [et] Rapot", specifying that Salome was "uxor Bolezlaus dux Bolonić"[1252]. The Chronica principum Polonie records that the second wife of "Boleslaus" was "ex Theutunica"[1253]. Thenecrology of Zwiefalten records the death "VI Kal 1144" of "Salome ducisse Bolonie"[1254]. m ([Mar/Jul] 1115) as his second wife, BOLESAW III "Krzywousty/Wrymouth" Duke of Poland, son of WADYSAW I HERMAN Prince of Poland & his second wife Judith of Bohemia (20 Aug [1086]-28 Oct 1138).

    **v) RICHINZA (-27 Sep 1125). Berthold's Chronicon of Zwiefalten names (in order) "Richinza ductrix Boemić, Sophia ductrix Moravić, Salome ductrix Polonić" as sisters of "Heinricus comes [et] Rapot", specifying in the subsequent paragraph that Richinza was "uxor Vlatizlaus qui et Lauzlan dux Boemić"[1255]. The necrology of Zwiefalten records the death "V Kal Oct" of "Richinza ductrix Boemie filie Heinrici comitis senioris"[1256]. m ([1110]) VLADISLAV I Duke of the Bohemians, son of VRATISLAV II Duke of the Bohemians & his third wife SwiÄŮLtoslawa [Svatana] of Poland (-12 Apr 1125, bur Prague St Maria).

    **vi) SOPHIE (-31 May [1126]). Berthold's Chronicon of Zwiefalten names (in order) "Richinza ductrix Boemić, Sophia ductrix Moravić, Salome ductrix Polonić" as sisters of "Heinricus comes [et] Rapot", specifying in the subsequent paragraph that Sophia was "uxor Ottonis ducis"[1257]. The necrology of Zwiefalten records the death "II Kal Jun" of "Sophia cv et ductrix Moravie, soror Salome ducisse"[1258]. m (after 1113) OTTO II "Niger" Duke of Moravia in Olmütz und Brünn, son of OTTO I "der Schöne" Duke of Moravia in Olmütz and Brno & his wife Ludmilla [Euphemia] of Hungary (-28 Feb 1126).

    *b) SALOME (-13 Jun ----). The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. She became a nun at Zwiefalten. m (before 1103) HEINRICH von Emerkingen (-5 Aug ----).

    *c) DIEPOLD (-bur ---, transferred to Zwiefalten). Ortlieb's Chronicon of Zwiefalten names "parvuli filii [=Bobbonis comitis et Sophić ipsius uxori] Diepoldi", when recording that Heinrich transferred his remains to Zwiefalten[1259].

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    Father: Diepold I In The Augsgau b: Abt 1005 in Vohburg, Germany
    Mother: Eilika Von Schweinfurt b: Abt 1000 in Schweinfurt, Bayern, Germany

    Marriage 1 Sophia Of Hungary Von Berg b: Abt 1040
    • Married:
    • Change Date: 6 Jan 2013
    Children
    1. Has Children Heinrich I Von Berg-Schelklingen b: ABT 1060 TO ABT 1077 in Baden-Württemberg, Germany

    Marriage 2 Spouse Unknown
    • Married:
    • Change Date: 6 Jan 2013
    Children
    1. Has Children Heinrich I Berg-Schelklingen b: Abt 1073
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