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  • ID: I161668
  • Name: Matilda Countess Of Flanders Queen Of England
  • Given Name: Matilda Countess Of Flanders Queen Of
  • Surname: England
  • Prefix: Queen Of England 1
  • Name: Matilda Countess Of Flanders
  • Given Name: Matilda Countess Of
  • Surname: Flanders 2
  • Name: Matilda De Flanders
  • Given Name: Matilda De
  • Surname: Flanders 3
  • Name: Matilda Of Flanders
  • Given Name: Matilda Of
  • Surname: Flanders 4 5 6
  • Name: Maud Of Flanders
  • Given Name: Maud Of
  • Surname: Flanders 4
  • Name: Matilda
  • Given Name:
  • Surname: Matilda 7
  • Sex: F
  • Birth: Abt 1029 in Flandres/Flanders, France 4
  • Death: 2 Nov 1083 in Caen, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France 4 1 8 5
  • Burial: Aft 3 Nov 1083 Église DE La Sainte Trinité, Caen, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France 3
  • Event: Acceded Abt 1068 3
  • Occupation:
  • Note: Queen Of England/ 4
  • Event: Alt. Birth Abt 1011
  • Note: Flanders, France 3
  • Event: Alt. Birth Abt 1031
  • Note: Flandres/Flanders 9
  • Event: Alt. Birth 1031
  • Note: Flanders/Flemish Region, Belgium 5 8
  • Event: Alt. Birth Abt 1032
  • Note: Flanders, France 2
  • Event: Alt. Death 3 Nov 1083
  • Note: Caen, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France 2
  • Event: Alt. Death 3 Nov 1083
  • Note: Neustria/Normandy, France 3
  • Event: Alt. Burial
  • Note: St Stephen's in Church Of The Holy Trinity/Église de la Sainte Trinité, Caen, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France 4 10 2 1
  • Occupation:
  • Note: Countess of Flanders/ 6 1
  • _UID: FA6084D06BAB48C19E190152868B502B63C1
  • Change Date: 5 Mar 2013 at 10:24
  • Note:
    [RCKarnes.ged]

    Countess of Flanders
    Caen, Normandy (then, France now)
    From 1066 to 1154 four Norman kings ruled. The Domesday Book, a great record of English land-holding, was published; the forests were extended; the Exchequer was founded; and a start was made on the Tower of London. In religious affairs, the Gregorian reform movement gathered pace and forced concessions, while the machinery of government developed to support the country while Henry was fighting abroad. Meanwhile, the social landscape was altered, as the Norman aristocracy came to prominence. Many of the nobles struggled to keep a hold on both Normandy and England, as divided rule meant the threat of conflict. This was the case when William the Conqueror died. His eldest son, Robert, became Duke of Normandy, while the next youngest, William, became king of England. Their younger brother Henry would become king on William II's death. The uneasy divide continued until Henry captured and imprisoned his elder brother.

    A spoiled young lady used to speaking her mind and getting her way, the 4'2"-tall Matilda (or "Maud") told the representative of William, Duke of Normandy (later king of England as William the Conqueror), who had come asking for her hand, that she was far too high-born (being descended from King Alfred the Great of England) to consider marrying a bastard. When that was repeated to him, William, all 5'10" of him, rode from Normandy to Bruges, found Matilda on her way to church, dragged her off her horse (some said by her long braids), threw her down in the street in front of her flabbergasted attendants, and then rode off. After that, she decided to marry him, and even a papal ban (on the grounds of consanguinity) did not dissuade her. There were rumors that Matilda had been in love with the English ambassador to Flanders, a Saxon so pale he was nearly an albino, named Brihtric (but nicknamed "Snow"), who was already married. Whatever the truth of the matter, years later when she was acting as regent for William in England, she used her authority to confiscate Brihtric's lands (without even any formal charges, much less a trial) and throw him into prison, where he died under suspicious circumstances consistent with poisoning. Matilda bore William ten children, and he was believed to have been faithful to her, at least up until the time their son Robert rebelled against his father and Matilda sided with Robert against William. After she died, in 1083 at the age of 51, William became tyrannical, and people blamed it on his having lost her. She was buried at St Stephen's in Caen, Normandy (then, France now), and William was eventually buried there, too. Years later their graves were opened and their bones measured, which is how we know how tall they were.
    (Wikipedia)

    ...

    [Hardin Clay Roots.ged]

    Crowned
    She was Queen of England and Duchess of Normandy. She was also the Countess of Flanders.
    Name Prefix: Countess
    Also Known As: Queen of England
    aka Hlafdige' (lady) which means "giver of bread"

    NAME:
    PrenticeNet:
    A Lineage to Caesar, PrenticeNet: WWW Wales, Lineage & Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Gerald Paget, Skilton, Edinburgh 1977, Vol I p 56

    NAME:Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, Genealogical Publishing Comp, Baltimore, 1993, p 103

    BIRTH:Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, vol. II,
    Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, vol. II,
    Langston, Aileen Lewers; Buck, J. Orton Jr.; and Beard, Timothy Field, 15 JUN 1996

    BIRTH:University of Hull Royal Database England, Brian Tompsett, Dept of Computer Science, copyright 1994, 1995, 1996

    BIRTH: Brøderbund WFT European Origins Vol. E1, Ed. 1, Tree #0328, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2000
    BIRTH:'Britain's Royal Families' -The Complete Genealogy - , by Alison Weir, by PIMLICO an imprint of Random House, 1989, 1996, ISBN 0 7126 7448 9

    DEATH:Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, vol. II, Langston, Aileen Lewers; Buck, J.

    Served as William's Regent in Normandy during & after the invasion of England.

    ...

    NAME Matilda (or Maud) of /Flanders/
    TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001
    BIRT DATE 1032
    PLAC Flanders, Belgium
    TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001
    DEAT DATE 3 NOV 1083
    PLAC Caen, Calvados, France
    TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001

    ...

    [De La Pole.FTW]

    r 1062, 1157, 1218, 1241, 1265, 1342, 1346, 1350, 1371;
    Coe;
    A. Roots 162, 169;
    Guizot's "France";

    Pfafman; Davis.e ancestress of English rulers down to the present time (1991). Two death dates: 2 or 3 Nov. 1083. No mention in all this of a second hubby as claimed by Kraentzler in line 1371. The chart, source unknown, says William was her second husband. Her first was Gerbod de Flandre, Advocate of the Abbey St Bertin and St Omer. Their daughter, Gundreda of Chester, married William de Warenne, First Earl of Surrey. Sile Rice in her novel, The Saxon Tapestry, says Matilda had a daughter, Gundrada, by an unnamed first husband. All other sources say Gundred/Gundrada was the daughter of William I, and birth dates given would so indicate. Also, referring to Matilda (page 354), "And her own daughter was the wife of Earl Warenne"--indicating this daughter was not the daughter of William I.

    AIS: Matilda of Flanders, born about 1031, Flandre, Belgium; died 2 Nov. 1083, Caen, France. K-1350: Mathilde de Frandre, "Maid of Flandre". Born about 1031, Flandre, Belgium; died 2 Nov. 1082, Caen, Calvados, France.
    e of the Abbey St Bertin and St Omer. K. and a chart, source unknown, are the only sources I've seen saying Matilda of Flanders was married to anyone besides William the Conqueror.
    ir," one of the most powerful lords of the day, was "beautiful, well-informed, firm in the faith, a model of virtue and modesty." And William asked for her hand in marriage. But she replied, "I would liefer be veiled nun than given in marriage to a bastard." (The above quotes apparently are from a chronicle of the period, but Guizot does not name the chronicler). William was hurt, but he decided he would have to gain more fame and power before trying again. Guizot says, "Some years later, being firmly established in Normandy, dreaded by all his neighbors, and already showing some foreshadowings of his design upon England, he renewed his matrimonial quest in Flanders, but after so strange a fashion that, in spite of contemporary testimony, several of the modern historians, in their zeal, even at so distant a period, for observance of the proprieties, reject as fabulous the story which is here related on authority of the most detailed account amongst all the chronicles which contain it." This chronicle relates: "A little after that Duke William had heard how the damsel had made answer, he took of his folk, and went privily to Lille, where the Duke of Flanders and his wife and his daughter then were. He entered into the hall, and, passing on as if to do some business, went into the countess's chamber, and there found the damsel daughter of Count Baldwin. Her took her by the tresses, dragged her round the chamber, trampled her under foot, and did beat her soundly. Then he strode forth from the chamber, leapt upon his horse, which was being held for him before the hall, struck in his spurs, and went his way. At this deed was Count Baldwin much enraged; and when matters had thus remained a while, Duke William sent once more to Count Baldwin to parley again of the marriage. The count sounded his daughter on the subject, and she answered that it pleased her well. So the nuptials took place with very great joy. And after the aforesaid matters, Count Baldwin, laughing withal, asked his daughter, wherefore she had so lightly accepted the marriage she had aforetime so cruelly refused. And she answered that she did not know the duke so well then as she did now; for, said she, if he had not great heart and high emprise, he had not been so bold as to dare come and beat me in my father's chamber." Guizot does not discount this story, noting it is contained in several chronicles, and he adds, "... as to the ruffianly gallantry employed by William to win his bride, there is nothing in it very singular, considering the habits of the time, and we meet with more than one example of adventures if not exactly similar, at any rate analogous."

    [Have found no other reference to this tale elsewhere.]

    ...x

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    Father: Baldwin V Of Lille Count Of Flanders b: Abt 1012 in Flandres/Flanders, France
    Mother: Adelaide Havoise Capet b: 1009 in Fécamp, Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France c: in France - Dtr Of Robert The Pious/

    Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown
    • Married:
    • Change Date: 5 Mar 2013

    Marriage 2 Spouse Unknown
    • Married: 1050 in Notre Dame Chapel, Château D'eu, Eu, Seine-Maritime, Upper Normandy, France 4
    • Note:
      [RCKarnes.ged]

      1051

      [Hardin Clay Roots.ged]

      Cathedral of Notre Dame d'Eu, Normandy

      ...
    • Event: Alt. Marriage 1053
    • Note: Castle of Angi, Normandy, France 2
    • Event: Alt. Marriage
    • Note: Rouen, Angi, France 10
    • Event: Alt. Marriage 1049
    • Note: Castle of Angi, Normandy, France 11 8
    • Event: Alt. Marriage 1050
    • Note: Castle of Angi, Normandy, France 4
    • Change Date: 5 Mar 2013

    Sources:
    1. Abbrev: Stephen Hardy
      Title: Stephen Hardy
      Repository:
        Name: Rootsweb.com
        http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

      Text: Date of Import: Sep 10, 2006
    2. Abbrev: Harry Owen Martin
      Title: Harry Owen Martin
      Note:
      HOM42@aol.com
      Repository:
        Name: Rootsweb.com
    3. Abbrev: Hardin Clay Roots
      Title: Hardin Clay Roots
      Author: Norvan L. Johnson
      Repository:
        Name: Rootsweb.com
        http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

      Text: Date of Import: Sep 27, 2006
    4. Abbrev: RCKarnes
      Title: RCKarnes
      Repository:
        Name: Rootsweb.com
        http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

      Text: Date of Import: Sep 14, 2006
    5. Abbrev: World Family Tree
      Title: World Family Tree
      Publication: Name: Banner Blue Division, Broderbund Software, Inc;
      Note:
      Customer pedigree
      Family Archive CD
      Page: Vol. 14, Ed. 1, Tree #2742
      Quality: 3
      Text: QUAY 3
    6. Abbrev: The Middle Ages: A Royal History of England
      Title: The Middle Ages: A Royal History of England
      Author: John Gillingham, Peter Earle, Antonia Fraser, Ed.
      Publication: Name: University of California Press; Location: Berkeley, Los Angeles; Date: 2000;
      Note:
      The Middle Ages: A Royal History of England Antonia Fraser, Ed.
    7. Abbrev: Jaime Millard
      Title: Jaime Millard
      Note:
      Source Medium: Other
      Text: Date of Import: Oct 27, 2006
    8. Abbrev: Hardin Clay Roots
      Title: Hardin Clay Roots
      Author: Norvan L. Johnson
      Repository:
        Name: Rootsweb.com
        http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com
    9. Abbrev: FamilySearch.org
      Title: FamilySearch.org
      Publication: Name: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints;
      Repository:
        Name: Family History Library, SLC
        25 N. West Temple St. 35 N. West Temple St. Salt L

      Text: Date of Import: Sep 10, 2006
    10. Abbrev: De La Pole
      Title: De La Pole
    11. Abbrev: World Family Tree
      Title: World Family Tree
      Publication: Name: Banner Blue Division, Broderbund Software, Inc;
      Note:
      Customer pedigree
      Family Archive CD
      Page: Vol. 14, Ed. 1, Tree #2742
      Text: QUAY 3
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