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  • ID: I53281
  • Name: Cadell "Ddyrnllug" Ap Cateyrn
  • Given Name: Cadell "Ddyrnllug"
  • Surname: Ap Cateyrn
  • Nickname: Ddyrnllug
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: Abt 419 in Powys, Wales
  • Death: Y 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50
  • _UID: AD0453EA1A88C54486C25A3CE90AAD95AC15
  • Change Date: 12 Mar 2013 at 11:01
  • Note:
    Cadell "Ddyrnllug" ap Cateyrn, Brenin of Powys [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9]
    Abt 430 - Yes, date unknown

    Suffix Brenin of Powys
    Birth Abt 430 of, , Powys gwlad, Wales
    Gender Male
    Name AKA Cadell deyrlloch map Cadern [4]
    Name AKA Cadell deyrnllug [6]
    Name AKA Cadell Deyrnllwg [5]
    Name AKA Cadell Deyrnllwy II [8]
    Name AKA Kadell dehyrnllvc [3]
    Name AKA Kenwaur cadcathuc [2]
    Name AKA Maucant ap Pascentius [9]
    Died Yes, date unknown
    Person ID I424 Wales: Records Primarily of the Nobility and Gentry
    Last Modified 27 Jun 2010

    Father Cateyrn ap Gwrtheyrn "Gwrtheneu", b. Abt 400, of, Gloucester, Southern England, England , d. Abt 448, Battle of Rithergbail
    Father's Name AKA Cadern map Gwrtheyrn

    Family ID F295 Group Sheet

    Children 1. Cyngen "Glodrydd" ap Cadell "Ddyrnllug", Brenin of Powys, b. Abt 470, of, , Powys gwlad, Wales , d. Yes, date unknown
    2. Tegid ap Cadell "Ddyrnllug", b. Abt 470, of, , Powys gwlad, Wales , d. Yes, date unknown

    Last Modified 27 Aug 2002
    Family ID F80 Group Sheet

    Notes TITLES: Prince of the Vale Royal and part of Powys. (J-Morris, Shropshire Genealogies, vol. 1 p. 85)
    TITLES: Brenin of Powys

    REMARKS: The term King can be misleading. In Wales till the middle of the 12th century individuals were styled 'Brenin' meaning chief or high one, and 'Arglwydd' meaning lord or master.
    REMARKS: He came most probably from Lloegr now known as the counties of Gloucester, Hereford, and Wiltshire. He seems to have been driven from his original settlements by the conquests of the English and was then forced into Powys. (Lloyd, History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog, vol. 4 p. 44)

    (Research) KINSHIP: Investigate> Bartrum's 'Welsh Genealogies 300-1400' volume 1 page 13 questions whether he belongs in this family.

    (Research) KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Dwnn's 'Heraldic Visitations of Wales' volume 2 page 83 shows a "Gwergynwy (Gwrgeneu) ap Gwaeddgar ab Bowyn ab Gwynan ab Gwirfyw urych ab Cadell deyrnllug".
    (Research) KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> J-Morris' 'Shropshire Genealogies' volume 1 page 85 makes him the son of "Pasgen ap Rheiddwy ap Rhudduadel Vrych ap Gwrtheyrn Gwrthenau".
    (Research) KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Griffith's 'Pedigrees of Anglesey and Carnarvonshire Families' page 325 gives him a non-existant descendancy.
    (Research) KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Lloyd's 'History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog' volume 1 page 306 makes him the grandson of his brother Rhuddfedel "Frych", and living in 580.
    o (Research):IDENTITY: Conflict/Error> Glenn's 'Family of Griffith of Garn and Plasnewydd in the County of Denbigh' page 256 pedigree confuses him with Mawgan ap Pasgen ap Gwrtheyrn "Gwrtheneu".

    Sources

    1. [S2437] #4568 Welsh Genealogies, AD 300-1400 (1980), Bartrum, Peter C. (Peter Clement), (25 volumes, with supplements containing additions and corrections. [Wales]: University of Wales Press, 1980), FHL book 942.9 D2bp; FHL microfiche 6025561., vol. 1 p. 13*.
    2. [S311] EWGT - De Situ Brecheniauc (MFU #4567), Peter C. Bartrum, (Cardiff. University of Wales Press. 1966), FHL 942.9 D2ba., p. 15.
    3. [S313] EWGT - Achau'r Saint (MFU #4567), Peter C. Bartrum, (Cardiff. University of Wales Press. 1966), FHL 942.9 D2ba., p. 69.
    4. [S301] EWGT - Jesus College MS. 20 (MFU #4567), Peter C. Bartrum, (Cardiff. University of Wales Press. 1966), FHL 942.9 D2ba., p. 46.
    5. [S1800] #771 The History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fodog and the Ancient Lords of Arwystli, Cedewen and Meirionydd (1881-1887), Lloyd, Jacob Youde William, (6 volumes. London: T. Richards, 1881-1887), FHL book 942.9 D2L; FHL microfilms 990,213-990,214., vol. 4 p. 44.
    6. [S2434] #2105 Heraldic Visitations of Wales and Part of the Marches Between the Years 1586 and 1613 by Lewys Dwnn (1846), Dwnn, Lewys; transcribed and edited with notes by Sir Samuel Rush Meyrick, (2 volumes. Llandovery: William Rees, 1846), FHL book 942.9 D23d; FHL microfilm 176,668., vol. 2 p. 83.
    7. [S2416] #12627 Genealogy of Shropshire [by Joseph Morris] (filmed 1966), Morris, Joseph, (10 volumes. Manuscript filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1966), vol. 1-2 FHL microfilm 504,551; vol.3-4 FHL microf., vol. 1 p. 85*.
    8. [S712] #1039 Pedigrees of Anglesey and Carnarvonshire Families: with Their Collateral Branches in Denbighshire, Merionethshire (1914), Griffith, John Edwards, (Horncastle, England: W.K. Morton, 1914), FHL book Folio 942.9 D2gr; FHL microfilm 468,334., p. 325.
    9. [S2318] #1210 The Family of Griffith of Garn and Plasnewydd in the County of Denbigh, as Registered in the College of Arms from the Beginning of the XIth Century (1934), Glenn, Thomas Allen, (London: Harrison, 1934), FHL book 929.2429 G875g; FHL microfilm 994,040 ite., p. 256 pedigree.

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    Brenin Powys Cadell Ddyrnllwg ap Cadeyrn o Powys [1]
    Father King of Powys Cadeyrn Fendigaid ap Gwrtheyrn of Britain [1] b. circa 404, d. 447
    Brenin Powys Cadell Ddyrnllwg ap Cadeyrn o Powys was the son of King of Powys Cadeyrn Fendigaid ap Gwrtheyrn of Britain.1 Also called Catullus filius Catigernus Latin. Brenin Powys Cadell Ddyrnllwg ap Cadeyrn o Powys also went by the name of Catullus "of the Gleaming Hilt" English, Ddyrnllwg = of the Gleaming Hilt. He was the successor of King of Powys Cadeyrn Fendigaid ap Gwrtheyrn of Britain; King of Powys.2 King of Powys at Wales in 441.2 Brenin Powys Cadell Ddyrnllwg ap Cadeyrn o Powys commanded the kingdom of Powys during his father Cadeyrn's battles in 441.2 He was driven from his father's kingdom by Irish pirates during the chaos of the Saxon insurrection in Southern Britain before 447. He hid himself amongst the peasants of Powys and became a servant of the Irish chieftain, Benlli, hoping, one day, to find an opportunity to retrieve his inheritance. He was restored to the Powys throne by St. Germanus in 447.2 He was had his chance when St.Germanus of Auxerre visited Britain, probably for the second time, to combat the Pelagian heresy in 447.1 King of Powys at Wales between 447 and 460.2 He married St. Gwelfyl verch Brychan o Brycheiniog, daughter of Brenin Brycheiniog St. Brychan ab Anllach o Brycheiniog and Prawst verch Tudwal o Dumnonia, before 468.1 Brenin Powys Cadell Ddyrnllwg ap Cadeyrn o Powys was the predecessor of Brenin Powys St. Cyngen Glodrydd ap Cadell o Powys; King of Powys.2
    Family St. Gwelfyl verch Brychan o Brycheiniog b. circa 438
    o Children
    Brenin Powys St. Cyngen Glodrydd ap Cadell o Powys+ b. c 470 [1,2]
    o Gwynfyr Frych ap Cadell o Powys+ b. c 4721
    Citations
    1. [S266] EBK, online http://freespace.virgin.net/david.ford2/?
    o[S266] Early British Kingdoms Web Site, online http://freespace.virgin.net/david.ford2/?. Hereinafter cited as EBK.
    http://www.britannia.com/history/ebk/
    http://www.earlybritishkingdoms.com/ Nash Ford Publishing
    [S266] Early British Kingdoms Web Site, online http://freespace.virgin.net/david.ford2/?. Hereinafter cited as EBK
    [S266] David Nash Ford's Early British Kingdoms Website http://www.earlybritishkingdoms.com/ Nash Ford Publishing
    2. [S640] History Files, online http://homepages.tesco.net/~plk33/plk33/history.htm




    Father: Cadeyrn Fendigaid Ap Gwrtheyrn b: Abt 379 in Wales

    Marriage 1 Ddyrnllug Ap Cateyrn
    • Married:
    • Change Date: 12 Mar 2013
    Children
    1. Has Children Cyngen "Glodrydd" Ap Cadell b: Abt 440 in Powys, Wales

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