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  • ID: I78276
  • _UID: 5D31B8D6E5CD4A74B3CC517ACC953989F97E
  • Name: John DRUMMOND
  • Suffix: , 1st Lord Drummond, MP
  • Prefix: Sir
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 1445 in Stobhall, Cargill, Perthshire
  • Death: 1519 in Stobhall, Cargill, Perthshire
  • Note:

    !John Drummon, 1st Lord Drummond, so created 29 Jan 1487/8, but without any indication of a remainder, although from the fact of its not being assumed or claimed by Jean, daughter and heir general of the 1st Earl of Perth, it would subsequently have been (and is here) inferred as being with limitation to heirs male. Privy Council 1488; Judiciar of Scotland 1488, Constable of Stirling Castle, envoy to England 1495 and 1511; imprisoned in Blackness Castle 1515-16 and temporarily deprived of his peerage for an assault on Sir William Comyn, Lyon King of Arms; married Lady Elizabeth Lindsay, daughter of 4th Earl of Crawford. Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, 1999, p. 2224

    !George Douglas, Master of Angus was the son of Archibald Douglas, 5th Earl of Angus and Elizabeth Boyd.1 He was born circa 1469.1 He married Elizabeth Drummond, daughter of John Drummond, 1st Lord Drummond and Elizabeth Lindsay, between July 1485 and 31 January 1489.1 He died on 9 September 1513 at Flodden, killed in action. He was styled as Master of Angus between 1470 and 1513.1 He fought in the Battle of Flodden on 9 September 1513. G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume I, page 157.

    John Drummond, lord of Stobhall, b. c 1438, d. 1519, son of Sir Malcolm Drummond of Stobhall by Marion, daughter of Sir David Murray of Tullibardine; MP 1471, Seneschal of Strathearn 1473, created 29 Jan 1487/8 Lord Drummond. Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, 5th Edition, 1999, p. 41e-12.

    !John Drummond, s. and h. of Sir Malcolm D. (d. 1470), of Stobhall and Cargill, co. Perth, by Mariot, 1st da. of Sir David Murray, of Tullibardine, sat in Parl. [S.] 6 May 1471 under the designation of _Dominus de Stobhall_; was Seneschal of Stratherne, 20 Mar. 1473/4; was one of the Embassy to England 1483-84. On 29 Jan. 1487/8 he was cr. LORD DRUMMOND [S.].(d) He joined the party against James III and sat in the first parl. of James IV, 6 Oct. 1488. He defeated the insurgent Earl of Lennox at Tillymoss, in 1489, and again, completely, at Gartalunane, near Aberfoyle, 11 Oct. 1489. P.C.* and Justiciary [S.] 1488; Constable of Stirling Castle; one of the Embassy to treat with the English 1495, 1511, and 1512/13; was imprisoned by the Regent Albany, 16 July 1515 to 23 Nov. 1516, on the charge of striking Lyon King at Arms (Sir William Comyn), was _forfeited_, but was _restored_ in 1516. He m. Elizabeth, da. of Alexander (Lindsay), 4th Earl of Crawford [S.], by Margaret, da. of Sir David Dunbar. She was living 22 Sep. 1509. He d. 1519, at Drummond Castle, aged 81,(e) and was bur. at Innerpeffray. (c) The family of Drummond is (naturally enough) one of the twelve given in Drummond's _Noble British Families_, being, perhaps, the one most profusely illustrated in that magnificent series. See vol. i, p. 118, note "b," sub Alvanley. There have been several histories of this distinguished family, one by D. Malcolm, 1808; another by the Hon. W. Drummond, ed. by D. Laing, 1831, &c.
    (d) "Johannes Drummond de Cargill, effectus fuit dominus Parliamenti, et, in futurum, nominandus _Dominus Drummond_."
    (e) Of his six daughters the most noted was Margaret (mistress to James IV), who was poisoned with her sisters, Sybil Drummond, and Eupheme, wife of John, Lord Fleming, in May 1502, all 3 being bur. at Dunblane. Of the other three?Annabel m. William (Graham), 1st Earl of Montrose [S.]; Beatrice was mistress of James (Hamilton), 1st Earl of Arran [S.]; while Elizabeth m. 1stly Sir David Fleming, grandson of Robert, 1st Lord Fleming, who d. before 1482, and 2ndly George Douglas, Master of Angus, and was mother of Archibald, 6th Earl of Angus [S.], whose da. and h., Margaret, Countess of Lennox [S.], was mother of Henry (Stuart), Lord Darnley, King Consort of Scotland, the father of James I and VI, and ancestor of every succeeding monarch of Great Britain. [Ref: CP IV:469-470] * Privy Councilor

    !BARONY OF FLEMING II.2. JOHN (FLEMING), LORD FLEMING [SCT], grandson and heir, being 2nd son, but eventually heir of Malcolm FLEMING, by Eupheme (living 1 June 1493), 2nd daughter of James (LIVINGSTON), 1st LORD LIVINGSTON [SCT], by Marian his wife, which Malcolm was 1st son and heir apparent of the 1st Lord (by his 1st wife), but died v.p., between October 1474. and October 1480, probably in 1477. He succeeded his elder brother, Sir David Fleming, of Monycabo, between 24 October 1480 and 2 May 1482, at which last date he was served heir to him. He was one of the nobles who opposed James III, and, seizing his soil, proclaimed him King in 1488. He occurs in the records of Parliament [SCT] 31 August 1493; was served heir to his grandfather 30 June 1500, and had a charter of Monycabo 8 May 1509. He was on several embassies to France; was vice-admiral of a ship of war, the "Margaret," in 1511; CHAMBERLAIN OF SCOTLAND from 26 January 1516/7 till his death; and was one of the three noblemen appointed in November 1523 as guardians of the King. He married, 1stly, before 5 May 1496, Euphcmc, 5th daughter of John (DRUMMOND), 1st LORD DRUMMOND [SCT], by Elizabeth, daughter of Alexander (LINDSAY), 4th EARL OF CRAWFORD [SCT]. She was poisoned (with two of her sisters) in May 1502, and buried at Dunblane. He married, 2ndly, before 13 February 1508/9 (charter 12 March), Margaret, 1st daughter of Matthew (STEWART), 2nd EARL OF LENNOX [SCT], by Elizabeth, daughter of James (HAMILTON), LORD HAMILTON [SCT]. She was divorced twice, firstly in or about 1509; she remarried after 17 December 1509, when she had Papal dispensation therefor, and was divorced for the second time before 25 October 1515.[b] He married, 3rdly, Agnes, daughter of Sir John SOMERVILLE, of Cambusnethan. He died 1 November 1524, being assassinated while hawking, by John Tweedie, of Drumelzier, and others. His widow married, between December 1526 and January 1528/29, as 3rd wife, George (LESLIE), 4th EARL OF ROTHES, who died 28 November 1558. She died between 18 August 1541 and 10 April 1543. [b] The ground for her first divorce was that she had been raped by John Fleming, son of Fleming of Boghall, and for her second that her husband's cousin german, James Lindsay, had had connexion with her before marriage. She married, before 1 May 1528, Alexander Douglas, of Mains. V.G. Complete Peerage, 5:351.
  • Change Date: 2 JUL 2016



    Father: Malcolm DRUMMOND b: ABT 1420 in Stobhall, Cargill, Perthshire, Scotland
    Mother: Mariot (Marion) MURRAY b: ABT 1430 in Tullibardine, Blackford, Perthshire, Scotland

    Marriage 1 Elizabeth LINDSAY b: ABT 1448 in Crawford, Clydesdale, Lanarkshire, Scotland
    • Married:
    Children
    1. Has Children William DRUMMOND b: 1460 in Stobhall, Cargill, Perthshire, Scotland
    2. Has Children Annabel DRUMMOND b: BEF 1463 in Stobhall, Perthshire, Scotland
    3. Has Children Elizabeth DRUMMOND b: 1465 in Stobhall, Cargilll, Perthshire, Scotland
    4. Has Children Euphame (Eupheme) DRUMMOND b: 1467 in Cumbernauld, Lanark, Scotland
    5. Has Children Margaret DRUMMOND b: ABT 1470
    6. Has Children John DRUMMOND b: ABT 1473
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